what is the going rate for nanny shares and nannies?

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Please. In what industry does increased experience not also mean more cost to the employer ie. a higher salary to the employee? If you want to hire someone with a ton of experience, you should expect to pay at the higher end of salaries. If you don't want to pay at the higher end of salaries, 20 years of experience better not be on your list of requirements. It annoys me to no end when I see silly first time parents asking for the world in a nanny, but don't want to pay for it. It is disrespectful, and disingenuous of you PP to act as though experience is not a huge factor in the quality of the nanny. To most parents, that is one of the biggest factors, even more so than education level.

This is true but it is true up to a point - in that your salary does go up with years of experience, but it does not do so indefinitely. In every professional occupation (as well as nannying), you will eventually hit a point of experience at which further additional years in the profession no longer generate an additional return. Every profession has a pay ceiling through which it is highly uncommon to break through. Furthermore, the nanny field is disadvantaged in that you may accrue experience and annual raises during your stay with one family, but you are likely to take a pay cut when you start a new job (inevitably) because your countdown of annual raises now has to start anew.

This is the disconnect, and why I don't understand parents who think this way. A worker stays with a particular company for a good number of years, gaining experience and new skills. That employee decides to make a switch to a new company. That company would not offer that employee the same salary they would a green employee. They offer a salary commensurate with experience. You don't start all over with each new job. Why is it okay to do this to a nanny with significant experience and proven longevity with a family? I have been nannying for 6 years now. I started as a college student making $12/hour working a few hours per week. I have increased my experience, my skills, and my references with each new position. I have never taken a pay cut for a new job. I agree that there are ceilings to your earning potential unique to each profession, but I completely disagree that a nanny has to climb the ladder all over again with each new job. If done correctly, a nanny should be increasing her skills and experience base with every position, and seeking out more challenging but more lucrative jobs, like any professional. I went from sitting a few hours per week at a low rate for a professor at my school, to caring for infant triplets for a very wealthy family making money that makes my family's jaw drop when they question my income. However I don't argue that the ceiling exists, and I will be "retiring" from nannying in another year because of it.

Thank you!...The poster who feels that she can determine the nanny salary ceiling is being presumptuous and arrogant. Also, she's minimizing what a great nanny can bring to a child's life. I know what the great families I've worked with meant/mean to me, and I know that I brought something to their lives. I've received mother's day gifts from parents, and other family members, because they felt, I truly loved and treated their children, as if they were mine. Any comments, that equate caregiving to a brainless job, that anyone could do, are ignorant, dismissive, and insensitive. I've grown to anticipate this sentiment, whenever nanny salaries are mentioned on this website. If you state that the job requires little, or no effort, or experience, then you can nickel and dime all potential employees.

It's neither presumptuous nor arrogant to state that a nanny salary ceiling does exist. It also doesn't minimize the contribution she brings to her charges' life.

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Anonymous wrote:Bad care of a child often has often has lifelong consequences. Abuse and/or neglect can have horrific consequences, not just for that family, but for the greater society.

Bad childcare does not produce a child with special needs. Children with special needs are that way at birth.

You must be right. That's why we're making such a fuss about "The Hell of American Daycare". Child neglect and abuse has consequences. But you just keep on believing that nothing matters. Moron.

You're calling your opponent names; does it mean you're out of logical arguments? And you aren't saying that child neglect and abuse doesn't happen to children with nannies, are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Please. In what industry does increased experience not also mean more cost to the employer ie. a higher salary to the employee? If you want to hire someone with a ton of experience, you should expect to pay at the higher end of salaries. If you don't want to pay at the higher end of salaries, 20 years of experience better not be on your list of requirements. It annoys me to no end when I see silly first time parents asking for the world in a nanny, but don't want to pay for it. It is disrespectful, and disingenuous of you PP to act as though experience is not a huge factor in the quality of the nanny. To most parents, that is one of the biggest factors, even more so than education level.

This is true but it is true up to a point - in that your salary does go up with years of experience, but it does not do so indefinitely. In every professional occupation (as well as nannying), you will eventually hit a point of experience at which further additional years in the profession no longer generate an additional return. Every profession has a pay ceiling through which it is highly uncommon to break through. Furthermore, the nanny field is disadvantaged in that you may accrue experience and annual raises during your stay with one family, but you are likely to take a pay cut when you start a new job (inevitably) because your countdown of annual raises now has to start anew.

This is the disconnect, and why I don't understand parents who think this way. A worker stays with a particular company for a good number of years, gaining experience and new skills. That employee decides to make a switch to a new company. That company would not offer that employee the same salary they would a green employee. They offer a salary commensurate with experience. You don't start all over with each new job. Why is it okay to do this to a nanny with significant experience and proven longevity with a family? I have been nannying for 6 years now. I started as a college student making $12/hour working a few hours per week. I have increased my experience, my skills, and my references with each new position. I have never taken a pay cut for a new job. I agree that there are ceilings to your earning potential unique to each profession, but I completely disagree that a nanny has to climb the ladder all over again with each new job. If done correctly, a nanny should be increasing her skills and experience base with every position, and seeking out more challenging but more lucrative jobs, like any professional. I went from sitting a few hours per week at a low rate for a professor at my school, to caring for infant triplets for a very wealthy family making money that makes my family's jaw drop when they question my income. However I don't argue that the ceiling exists, and I will be "retiring" from nannying in another year because of it.

Thank you!...The poster who feels that she can determine the nanny salary ceiling is being presumptuous and arrogant. Also, she's minimizing what a great nanny can bring to a child's life. I know what the great families I've worked with meant/mean to me, and I know that I brought something to their lives. I've received mother's day gifts from parents, and other family members, because they felt, I truly loved and treated their children, as if they were mine. Any comments, that equate caregiving to a brainless job, that anyone could do, are ignorant, dismissive, and insensitive. I've grown to anticipate this sentiment, whenever nanny salaries are mentioned on this website. If you state that the job requires little, or no effort, or experience, then you can nickel and dime all potential employees.

Well said! It's how some parents deal with their conflicted emotions.

What conflicted emotions do you think the parents experience?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Please. In what industry does increased experience not also mean more cost to the employer ie. a higher salary to the employee? If you want to hire someone with a ton of experience, you should expect to pay at the higher end of salaries. If you don't want to pay at the higher end of salaries, 20 years of experience better not be on your list of requirements. It annoys me to no end when I see silly first time parents asking for the world in a nanny, but don't want to pay for it. It is disrespectful, and disingenuous of you PP to act as though experience is not a huge factor in the quality of the nanny. To most parents, that is one of the biggest factors, even more so than education level.

This is true but it is true up to a point - in that your salary does go up with years of experience, but it does not do so indefinitely. In every professional occupation (as well as nannying), you will eventually hit a point of experience at which further additional years in the profession no longer generate an additional return. Every profession has a pay ceiling through which it is highly uncommon to break through. Furthermore, the nanny field is disadvantaged in that you may accrue experience and annual raises during your stay with one family, but you are likely to take a pay cut when you start a new job (inevitably) because your countdown of annual raises now has to start anew.

This is the disconnect, and why I don't understand parents who think this way. A worker stays with a particular company for a good number of years, gaining experience and new skills. That employee decides to make a switch to a new company. That company would not offer that employee the same salary they would a green employee. They offer a salary commensurate with experience. You don't start all over with each new job. Why is it okay to do this to a nanny with significant experience and proven longevity with a family? I have been nannying for 6 years now. I started as a college student making $12/hour working a few hours per week. I have increased my experience, my skills, and my references with each new position. I have never taken a pay cut for a new job. I agree that there are ceilings to your earning potential unique to each profession, but I completely disagree that a nanny has to climb the ladder all over again with each new job. If done correctly, a nanny should be increasing her skills and experience base with every position, and seeking out more challenging but more lucrative jobs, like any professional. I went from sitting a few hours per week at a low rate for a professor at my school, to caring for infant triplets for a very wealthy family making money that makes my family's jaw drop when they question my income. However I don't argue that the ceiling exists, and I will be "retiring" from nannying in another year because of it.

Thank you!...The poster who feels that she can determine the nanny salary ceiling is being presumptuous and arrogant. Also, she's minimizing what a great nanny can bring to a child's life. I know what the great families I've worked with meant/mean to me, and I know that I brought something to their lives. I've received mother's day gifts from parents, and other family members, because they felt, I truly loved and treated their children, as if they were mine. Any comments, that equate caregiving to a brainless job, that anyone could do, are ignorant, dismissive, and insensitive. I've grown to anticipate this sentiment, whenever nanny salaries are mentioned on this website. If you state that the job requires little, or no effort, or experience, then you can nickel and dime all potential employees.

Well said! It's how some parents deal with their conflicted emotions.

What conflicted emotions do you think the parents experience?

You know. No need to state the obvious. Go ask your friends if you want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Bad care of a child often has often has lifelong consequences. Abuse and/or neglect can have horrific consequences, not just for that family, but for the greater society.

Bad childcare does not produce a child with special needs. Children with special needs are that way at birth.

You must be right. That's why we're making such a fuss about "The Hell of American Daycare". Child neglect and abuse has consequences. But you just keep on believing that nothing matters. Moron.

There is no such thing as the hell of American daycare, so the only one making a fuss is you. That nonsense was debunked years ago.

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What conflicted emotions do you think the parents experience?

You know. No need to state the obvious. Go ask your friends if you want.
You're the one who brought it up so shouldn't you be able to explain it?

[Anonymous]

back to topic: OP, it depends on where you are in the country, experience of the nanny, and parameters of the job.

We pay 850 weekly for 45 hours, two toddlers in DC for a fairly experienced (5 year) non driving nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Bad care of a child often has often has lifelong consequences. Abuse and/or neglect can have horrific consequences, not just for that family, but for the greater society.

Bad childcare does not produce a child with special needs. Children with special needs are that way at birth.

You must be right. That's why we're making such a fuss about "The Hell of American Daycare". Child neglect and abuse has consequences. But you just keep on believing that nothing matters. Moron.

There is no such thing as the hell of American daycare, so the only one making a fuss is you. That nonsense was debunked years ago.

You apparently don't much read the parent's forum. You may pull up the article if you do a DCUM search for "The Hell of American Daycare". As you can easily imagine, it certainly caused quite a stir among our DCUM parents here. The research findings were rather harsh, so brace yourself. Maybe you've been spared the horrors of high-turnover daycare, and its unfortunate consequences.

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Please, PP, provide links to research studies that conclude that there is an American Daycare Hell. Please. We're all eagerly awaiting the harsh findings you're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Bad care of a child often has often has lifelong consequences. Abuse and/or neglect can have horrific consequences, not just for that family, but for the greater society.

Bad childcare does not produce a child with special needs. Children with special needs are that way at birth.

You must be right. That's why we're making such a fuss about "The Hell of American Daycare". Child neglect and abuse has consequences. But you just keep on believing that nothing matters. Moron.

There is no such thing as the hell of American daycare, so the only one making a fuss is you. That nonsense was debunked years ago.

You apparently don't much read the parent's forum. You may pull up the article if you do a DCUM search for "The Hell of American Daycare". As you can easily imagine, it certainly caused quite a stir among our DCUM parents here. The research findings were rather harsh, so brace yourself. Maybe you've been spared the horrors of high-turnover daycare, and its unfortunate consequences.

That article was about bad daycare. And it didn't have "findings."

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Nanny salaries varey fom state to state, sometimes city to city. You have legal pay vs. cash pay, part time, vs. fulll-time plus 10+ or more for live ins. Pay is complicated, how much house work & laundry you want, how many hours and how much flexibility you need. If she can hold down another part ime job, if you need regular part ime hours then you may pay the 15-20 range. Most urban areas are $15-21 for full time for one or more children. Things like driving thier own car, and paid gas are also considertions; taxes, vacation, holidys and sick days, and vacation days are as well. Compair to daycare, many great, loving workers, but your child will get sick more (you will have to take time off to care form home and still pay for your daycare spot when you child sick (under two get sick often in group care). It's a toss up and depends on your work your work nd family life. If you want someone long term who knows what she's doing hire are pro, if you want fun, but not super comitted to your family (values) pay less for less experience! What thw Hell hpened o my pll check? Sorry grammer nuts!