Moms would you hire a nanny with oral herpes?

[Anonymous]

Simple. Postpone any potential interviewing until your fever blister is gone. Everyone happy now?

[Anonymous]

Perhaps opt for a nanny with impeccable hygiene habits. She'll expect you to be a "clean" family, as well.

Having been a kindergarten teacher, I couldn't believe how most children were unaccustomed to washing their hands after using the bathroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps opt for a nanny with impeccable hygiene habits. She'll expect you to be a "clean" family, as well.

Having been a kindergarten teacher, I couldn't believe how most children were unaccustomed to washing their hands after using the bathroom.

I'm a teacher and I don't wash my hands after using the bathroom (I don't piss on them) and I don't demand my student do it either, but I will tow the company line so to speak and loudly remind them to wash their hands or ask them if they did if there is another adult within earshot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps opt for a nanny with impeccable hygiene habits. She'll expect you to be a "clean" family, as well.

Having been a kindergarten teacher, I couldn't believe how most children were unaccustomed to washing their hands after using the bathroom.

I'm a teacher and I don't wash my hands after using the bathroom (I don't piss on them) and I don't demand my student do it either, but I will tow the company line so to speak and loudly remind them to wash their hands or ask them if they did if there is another adult within earshot.

If you are in fact a teacher, where do you teach? You seem more like a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps opt for a nanny with impeccable hygiene habits. She'll expect you to be a "clean" family, as well.

Having been a kindergarten teacher, I couldn't believe how most children were unaccustomed to washing their hands after using the bathroom.

I'm a teacher and I don't wash my hands after using the bathroom (I don't piss on them) and I don't demand my student do it either, but I will tow the company line so to speak and loudly remind them to wash their hands or ask them if they did if there is another adult within earshot.

You may not "piss" on your hands, but the person who flushed the toilet or unlatched the door before you very well could have gotten fecal matter everywhere. Not washing your hands is not something you should be proud of, it's disgusting. I hope a child with a compromised immune system is never put in your care.

[Anonymous]

years later, same question as her--been debating but it pains me to say we have decided we can't hire her. We know of a mom who thought she was being careful with her own baby and gave the baby herpes of the eye, kissing her baby on a day when she had no active sore. She didn't realize that she could be contagious on other days too. As for the nanny, she showed up to the interview and I saw the sore which she said she gets with fever. I asked her if she had put any healing cream on it and she TOUCHED it and said yes. Touched her lip and put hands back down about to play with my one of my child's toys. You cannot assume someone is aware, thinking all the time about whether they left their water bottle within reach of your kids, etc. It's very very contagious and it's for life. Also anyone on here who says it is the same as chicken pox should just google their facts. It's pretty straight forward that they are not the same strain, chicken pox does not ever cause you to get a cold sore. 20% of Americans have the virus, but 80% don't. Our kids might get it once day, but right now, when they are so young, if we don't have to bring it into our family, we prefer not to. If one child gets it, then what--does he have to stop kissing the other child, or do you just decide to let everyone get it. If you're kids get it orally, they are saddled with it forever and could pass to their spouses, or dates, orally OR genitally. And it's NOT only contagious when there is an obvious sore, or it would not have spread to 20% of the population. In fact, most people will tell you they are not sure how they caught it because very few people will choose to kiss someone or have oral sex with someone with an oozing wound, nor will the person with the sore be that inconsiderate. The reason it is so common is that in 70% of those who have oral herpes, the virus "sheds" at least once/month on their skin without causing them a blister. That means the virus is present and can be caught by anyone who does not have the antibodies, but it's not strong enough to cause a blister at that moment in the carrier who already has antibodies fighting it from coming out as a blister. If you have herpes 1 or 2, you can NEVER know for sure you are not contagious--you can only know certain days you for sure are contagious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:years later, same question as her--been debating but it pains me to say we have decided we can't hire her. We know of a mom who thought she was being careful with her own baby and gave the baby herpes of the eye, kissing her baby on a day when she had no active sore. She didn't realize that she could be contagious on other days too. As for the nanny, she showed up to the interview and I saw the sore which she said she gets with fever. I asked her if she had put any healing cream on it and she TOUCHED it and said yes. Touched her lip and put hands back down about to play with my one of my child's toys. You cannot assume someone is aware, thinking all the time about whether they left their water bottle within reach of your kids, etc. It's very very contagious and it's for life. Also anyone on here who says it is the same as chicken pox should just google their facts. It's pretty straight forward that they are not the same strain, chicken pox does not ever cause you to get a cold sore. 20% of Americans have the virus, but 80% don't. Our kids might get it once day, but right now, when they are so young, if we don't have to bring it into our family, we prefer not to. If one child gets it, then what--does he have to stop kissing the other child, or do you just decide to let everyone get it. If you're kids get it orally, they are saddled with it forever and could pass to their spouses, or dates, orally OR genitally. And it's NOT only contagious when there is an obvious sore, or it would not have spread to 20% of the population. In fact, most people will tell you they are not sure how they caught it because very few people will choose to kiss someone or have oral sex with someone with an oozing wound, nor will the person with the sore be that inconsiderate. The reason it is so common is that in 70% of those who have oral herpes, the virus "sheds" at least once/month on their skin without causing them a blister. That means the virus is present and can be caught by anyone who does not have the antibodies, but it's not strong enough to cause a blister at that moment in the carrier who already has antibodies fighting it from coming out as a blister. If you have herpes 1 or 2, you can NEVER know for sure you are not contagious--you can only know certain days you for sure are contagious.

If you are someone who does occasionally get a cold sore, then yes, I agree with what you are saying about having to be extra careful and how you can pass it on to someone else even if you are not showing symptoms. But if you never ever get a cold sore, then the risk is practically nil that you will pass on the virus to someone else. I can't say that you are 100% not contagious because one day, this person could have a cold sore and in that case, would be contagious (even before the blister appears), but for years or even decades, this person could be not contagious because the virus never reaches the skin (which is why they never have cold sores).

The reason the virus has spread to so much of the population is not just because it's contagious when it's asymptomatic, but also because it was just not a big deal in past generations. When I was in elementary school, I used to go on a two week trip every summer with my church youth group and due to all the traveling, a lot of the kids broke out in cold sores. It was considered NBD, kids would share food and cups and I'm sure the virus spread like crazy. Our generation is much more aware and concerned about it and I wouldn't be surprised if the % of the population that has the virus goes down over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks for the responses. I'm actually surprised to see so many people agreeing with me, but I think it's a legitimate concern and my husband and I will have to think long and hard about it. I could absolutely bring it up with the kids' doctor. I'll post the response I get here for everyone.

Our girls are 3 & 14 months and then we also have a son who's 7 that she will only be with Pt.

What if the other nanny you interviewed has a cold sore, but it just wasn't flared up that day? So many people carry the virus. You don't know who has it and who doesn't. That said, you have every right to decided who watched your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anybody who has had chicken pox caries the virus. They go hand in hand. Flare ups are usually caused by stress or compromised immune system. I have gotten flare ups when I've had a bad cold. I am not the type of nanny to kiss or share food with my charges though. Also, I had more flare ups whe I was younger, rarely get them after I turned 30 or so. It would not be a deal breaker for me unless she were constantly picking at it.

Fever blister = cold sore = Herpes simplex virus (HSV)

Chickenpox = varicella zoster virus (VZV)

They are not the same and no, anyone who has had chickenpox does not have herpes.

Just a late PSA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anybody who has had chicken pox caries the virus. They go hand in hand. Flare ups are usually caused by stress or compromised immune system. I have gotten flare ups when I've had a bad cold. I am not the type of nanny to kiss or share food with my charges though. Also, I had more flare ups whe I was younger, rarely get them after I turned 30 or so. It would not be a deal breaker for me unless she were constantly picking at it.

Fever blister = cold sore = Herpes simplex virus (HSV)

Chickenpox = varicella zoster virus (VZV)

They are not the same and no, anyone who has had chickenpox does not have herpes.

Just a late PSA.

I think PPs were confusing cold sores with shingles.

If you get chicken pox, you can get shingles.
If you get cold sores, you can spread herpes both orally and to genitalia.

[Anonymous]

Ignorant ass thread was embarrassing to read

[Anonymous]

Lmao. Everybody has the herpes type no sexual. It comes in the mouth when stressed or hormones. You can get it by a kiss in the cheek or sharing a towel, etc. Its normal and fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lmao. Everybody has the herpes type no sexual. It comes in the mouth when stressed or hormones. You can get it by a kiss in the cheek or sharing a towel, etc. Its normal and fine.

No not everyone has it but its highly contagious, so lots of people have it!