The dishwasher job creep trick

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It does not take 5 minutes as one has to dry the things not yet dried from the dishwasher and wash by hand the things that did not get cleaned properly as employers allow the food to get dried and crusty and stuck on their dishes before putting them in dishwasher.

I do like and respect my employers and they are fair for the most part, however experience has taught me that no matter how 'nice' employers are, we as humans tend to get used to things and will take them for granted. So it will start with emptying dishwasher, then it will become expected and then lead to other things that become part of your responsibility as well.

My solution is to simply take care of the kids things by hand. Occasionally I will empty the dishwasher or do something non kid related - for example, if one of my employers is sick or its a particularly rough or stressful work period. It cannot become the norm as I know where that leads.

You sound lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are just willing to do the absolute minimum you are not a professional nanny and a babysitter. This is their home. If they get home late, have to make dinner, shower the kids, homework, and their stuff, they may run out of time or are tired and its ok to leave it a day. Its absurd to expect the house always spotless and dishwasher unloaded every night.

No. You hire a housekeeper. A professional nanny provides care for your children. A housekeeper cleans your house. It’s absurd to pay someone to take care of your kids, then demand they do housework without discussing it first and compensating then for the extra work.

Unloading the dishwasher is different from a heavy cleaning and as someone in the household for that many hours, basic helping out should be expected. You want to scream you are equal to a parent but a parent would take care of those things. You are working in a home. Most jobs have duties outside the very specific ones you are hired for. Professionals do them and don't scream they will not do them as they are professionals or they never get ahead.

[Anonymous]

How about give the kids an activity, print a coloring page, give them stickers
While they do that, empty the dishwasher! What is wrong with the non touching the dishwasher nannies
Pure craziness
Don’t pick up their laundry off the floor, don’t make their beds, don’t organize their mail shoes .... by their I mean the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really?!?!?!
Look at the whole picture.
Is the family great? Are they paying good? Do you get benefits? If it’s a really great family good pay good benefits vacation time
Do you really care about putting that extra dish into the dishwasher?
It’s so hard to find great families
And sorry but unloading the dishwasher should be a Nanny’s job, and I’ve been doing this since day one. So if you run the dishwasher with 10 kids dishes and 20 parents, you only empty the 10 kids dishes? You guys are ridiculous!
It takes 5 min to unload the fish washer
Lol I’d like to see my boss face when I leave their dishes in
Yes leaving dirty dishes for you to wash is definitely not fair, the only way to overcome is to ask them nicely to put them away themselves, if you won’t ask, they won’t do it and you’ll resent them very fast and there goes your job

You again? With your bad grammar and use of “lol”, you are recognizable.

I am a nanny and former teacher. Caring for and teaching my charges is my job; washing only their clothes, linens and towels is my job; making all their healthful meals homemade and from scratch is my job; reading to them and taking them to the library is my job; doing art projects and science experiments with my charges is my job; teaching my charges French is my job as well as teaching them an extensive English vocabulary is my job; play imaginative games and dancing with them is my job. Cleaning up after adults (unloading their dishes) is NOT my job nor would my employers ever expect it to be. I am their children’s nanny - not theirs.

So what you clean the kids dishes by hand? Or only take out the kids dishes out of the washer?
Btw you know how much more expensive it is to wash dishes by the hand? Think about our valuable water that needs to be heated , the amount that goes down the sink.... dishwashers nowadays use minimum water to wash hundreds of dishes at once

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really?!?!?!
Look at the whole picture.
Is the family great? Are they paying good? Do you get benefits? If it’s a really great family good pay good benefits vacation time
Do you really care about putting that extra dish into the dishwasher?
It’s so hard to find great families
And sorry but unloading the dishwasher should be a Nanny’s job, and I’ve been doing this since day one. So if you run the dishwasher with 10 kids dishes and 20 parents, you only empty the 10 kids dishes? You guys are ridiculous!
It takes 5 min to unload the fish washer
Lol I’d like to see my boss face when I leave their dishes in
Yes leaving dirty dishes for you to wash is definitely not fair, the only way to overcome is to ask them nicely to put them away themselves, if you won’t ask, they won’t do it and you’ll resent them very fast and there goes your job

You again? With your bad grammar and use of “lol”, you are recognizable.

I am a nanny and former teacher. Caring for and teaching my charges is my job; washing only their clothes, linens and towels is my job; making all their healthful meals homemade and from scratch is my job; reading to them and taking them to the library is my job; doing art projects and science experiments with my charges is my job; teaching my charges French is my job as well as teaching them an extensive English vocabulary is my job; play imaginative games and dancing with them is my job. Cleaning up after adults (unloading their dishes) is NOT my job nor would my employers ever expect it to be. I am their children’s nanny - not theirs.

So what you clean the kids dishes by hand? Or only take out the kids dishes out of the washer?
Btw you know how much more expensive it is to wash dishes by the hand? Think about our valuable water that needs to be heated , the amount that goes down the sink.... dishwashers nowadays use minimum water to wash hundreds of dishes at once

PP here. It has never happened to me. I have never worked for a couple who left so much as one used coffee spoon in the sink in the morning. The dishwasher is always empty from the day before and dishes put away when I arrive.

The way it should be. The way I insist it be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are just willing to do the absolute minimum you are not a professional nanny and a babysitter. This is their home. If they get home late, have to make dinner, shower the kids, homework, and their stuff, they may run out of time or are tired and its ok to leave it a day. Its absurd to expect the house always spotless and dishwasher unloaded every night.

No. You hire a housekeeper. A professional nanny provides care for your children. A housekeeper cleans your house. It’s absurd to pay someone to take care of your kids, then demand they do housework without discussing it first and compensating then for the extra work.

Unloading the dishwasher is different from a heavy cleaning and as someone in the household for that many hours, basic helping out should be expected. You want to scream you are equal to a parent but a parent would take care of those things. You are working in a home. Most jobs have duties outside the very specific ones you are hired for. Professionals do them and don't scream they will not do them as they are professionals or they never get ahead.

No its not and you should be hiring a housekeeper if you want housekeeping. If you can’t afford a housekeeper you probably can’t afford a nanny. Basic “helping out” is not part of any nannies job description. You can try to twist it anyway you like but at the end of the day you want a housekeeper who watches your kids at a nanny rate. You don’t want to compensate your nanny for housekeeping duties and you don’t want to pay a housekeeper. You want your cake and to eat it too. I don’t scream anything and idk what being equal to a parent means. A nanny is not your child’s parent nor do they want to be. A nanny comes into your home to provide childcare, which may include cleaning up after your child. That’s what you are paying them for. If you want them to do housekeeping then you pay them extra for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really?!?!?!
Look at the whole picture.
Is the family great? Are they paying good? Do you get benefits? If it’s a really great family good pay good benefits vacation time
Do you really care about putting that extra dish into the dishwasher?
It’s so hard to find great families
And sorry but unloading the dishwasher should be a Nanny’s job, and I’ve been doing this since day one. So if you run the dishwasher with 10 kids dishes and 20 parents, you only empty the 10 kids dishes? You guys are ridiculous!
It takes 5 min to unload the fish washer
Lol I’d like to see my boss face when I leave their dishes in
Yes leaving dirty dishes for you to wash is definitely not fair, the only way to overcome is to ask them nicely to put them away themselves, if you won’t ask, they won’t do it and you’ll resent them very fast and there goes your job

You again? With your bad grammar and use of “lol”, you are recognizable.

I am a nanny and former teacher. Caring for and teaching my charges is my job; washing only their clothes, linens and towels is my job; making all their healthful meals homemade and from scratch is my job; reading to them and taking them to the library is my job; doing art projects and science experiments with my charges is my job; teaching my charges French is my job as well as teaching them an extensive English vocabulary is my job; play imaginative games and dancing with them is my job. Cleaning up after adults (unloading their dishes) is NOT my job nor would my employers ever expect it to be. I am their children’s nanny - not theirs.

So what you clean the kids dishes by hand? Or only take out the kids dishes out of the washer?
Btw you know how much more expensive it is to wash dishes by the hand? Think about our valuable water that needs to be heated , the amount that goes down the sink.... dishwashers nowadays use minimum water to wash hundreds of dishes at once

PP here. It has never happened to me. I have never worked for a couple who left so much as one used coffee spoon in the sink in the morning. The dishwasher is always empty from the day before and dishes put away when I arrive.

The way it should be. The way I insist it be.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are just willing to do the absolute minimum you are not a professional nanny and a babysitter. This is their home. If they get home late, have to make dinner, shower the kids, homework, and their stuff, they may run out of time or are tired and its ok to leave it a day. Its absurd to expect the house always spotless and dishwasher unloaded every night.

No. You hire a housekeeper. A professional nanny provides care for your children. A housekeeper cleans your house. It’s absurd to pay someone to take care of your kids, then demand they do housework without discussing it first and compensating then for the extra work.

Unloading the dishwasher is different from a heavy cleaning and as someone in the household for that many hours, basic helping out should be expected. You want to scream you are equal to a parent but a parent would take care of those things. You are working in a home. Most jobs have duties outside the very specific ones you are hired for. Professionals do them and don't scream they will not do them as they are professionals or they never get ahead.

No its not and you should be hiring a housekeeper if you want housekeeping. If you can’t afford a housekeeper you probably can’t afford a nanny. Basic “helping out” is not part of any nannies job description. You can try to twist it anyway you like but at the end of the day you want a housekeeper who watches your kids at a nanny rate. You don’t want to compensate your nanny for housekeeping duties and you don’t want to pay a housekeeper. You want your cake and to eat it too. I don’t scream anything and idk what being equal to a parent means. A nanny is not your child’s parent nor do they want to be. A nanny comes into your home to provide childcare, which may include cleaning up after your child. That’s what you are paying them for. If you want them to do housekeeping then you pay them extra for that.

I'm a new poster. I would never hire a nanny like you. So many entitled nannies on here! Dealing with the dishes in the kitchen has been a part of the job description of every nanny I have had, none have complained, and we paid standard nanny rates. Stay at home moms need to do all these things during their day, balancing child stuff with house stuff, so when I am out of the house, I expect the nannies to do the same. It's not that hard to empty a dishwasher while a 1-2 year old is sitting a few feet away having a snack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are just willing to do the absolute minimum you are not a professional nanny and a babysitter. This is their home. If they get home late, have to make dinner, shower the kids, homework, and their stuff, they may run out of time or are tired and its ok to leave it a day. Its absurd to expect the house always spotless and dishwasher unloaded every night.

No. You hire a housekeeper. A professional nanny provides care for your children. A housekeeper cleans your house. It’s absurd to pay someone to take care of your kids, then demand they do housework without discussing it first and compensating then for the extra work.

Unloading the dishwasher is different from a heavy cleaning and as someone in the household for that many hours, basic helping out should be expected. You want to scream you are equal to a parent but a parent would take care of those things. You are working in a home. Most jobs have duties outside the very specific ones you are hired for. Professionals do them and don't scream they will not do them as they are professionals or they never get ahead.

No its not and you should be hiring a housekeeper if you want housekeeping. If you can’t afford a housekeeper you probably can’t afford a nanny. Basic “helping out” is not part of any nannies job description. You can try to twist it anyway you like but at the end of the day you want a housekeeper who watches your kids at a nanny rate. You don’t want to compensate your nanny for housekeeping duties and you don’t want to pay a housekeeper. You want your cake and to eat it too. I don’t scream anything and idk what being equal to a parent means. A nanny is not your child’s parent nor do they want to be. A nanny comes into your home to provide childcare, which may include cleaning up after your child. That’s what you are paying them for. If you want them to do housekeeping then you pay them extra for that.

I'm a new poster. I would never hire a nanny like you. So many entitled nannies on here! Dealing with the dishes in the kitchen has been a part of the job description of every nanny I have had, none have complained, and we paid standard nanny rates. Stay at home moms need to do all these things during their day, balancing child stuff with house stuff, so when I am out of the house, I expect the nannies to do the same. It's not that hard to empty a dishwasher while a 1-2 year old is sitting a few feet away having a snack.

The bolded is enough reason that I wouldn’t even set up an interview with you. So don’t you worry, you are not the type of family I would work for and the type I steer far away from. I’m not a stay at home mom, I’m working to provide care for children. If you can’t afford to hire a housekeeper you can not afford to hire me. So many entitled average to low paying families on here who expect a nanny to bend over backwards for them without proper compensation.

[Anonymous]

Are you really comparing your nanny to a stay at home mom? By that logic, the nanny should be able to do some of her 'home' things and run her own errands and respond to her phone messages while caring for your kids??

It is not the same. It is not unreasonable to have the nanny care for the dishes if discussed and agreed upfront beforehand and all are ok with this arrangement. However using the 'stay at home mom' reason is flawed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It does not take 5 minutes as one has to dry the things not yet dried from the dishwasher and wash by hand the things that did not get cleaned properly as employers allow the food to get dried and crusty and stuck on their dishes before putting them in dishwasher.

I do like and respect my employers and they are fair for the most part, however experience has taught me that no matter how 'nice' employers are, we as humans tend to get used to things and will take them for granted. So it will start with emptying dishwasher, then it will become expected and then lead to other things that become part of your responsibility as well.

My solution is to simply take care of the kids things by hand. Occasionally I will empty the dishwasher or do something non kid related - for example, if one of my employers is sick or its a particularly rough or stressful work period. It cannot become the norm as I know where that leads.

You sound lazy.

On the contrary - I take care of multiples and I am very engaged with my kids throughout the day. We have two outings a day on most days and I have healthy, happy, active, energetic kids whose parents are pleased with my care of them. Choosing not to take care of their parents dishes does not make me lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are just willing to do the absolute minimum you are not a professional nanny and a babysitter. This is their home. If they get home late, have to make dinner, shower the kids, homework, and their stuff, they may run out of time or are tired and its ok to leave it a day. Its absurd to expect the house always spotless and dishwasher unloaded every night.

No. You hire a housekeeper. A professional nanny provides care for your children. A housekeeper cleans your house. It’s absurd to pay someone to take care of your kids, then demand they do housework without discussing it first and compensating then for the extra work.

Unloading the dishwasher is different from a heavy cleaning and as someone in the household for that many hours, basic helping out should be expected. You want to scream you are equal to a parent but a parent would take care of those things. You are working in a home. Most jobs have duties outside the very specific ones you are hired for. Professionals do them and don't scream they will not do them as they are professionals or they never get ahead.

No its not and you should be hiring a housekeeper if you want housekeeping. If you can’t afford a housekeeper you probably can’t afford a nanny. Basic “helping out” is not part of any nannies job description. You can try to twist it anyway you like but at the end of the day you want a housekeeper who watches your kids at a nanny rate. You don’t want to compensate your nanny for housekeeping duties and you don’t want to pay a housekeeper. You want your cake and to eat it too. I don’t scream anything and idk what being equal to a parent means. A nanny is not your child’s parent nor do they want to be. A nanny comes into your home to provide childcare, which may include cleaning up after your child. That’s what you are paying them for. If you want them to do housekeeping then you pay them extra for that.

I'm a new poster. I would never hire a nanny like you. So many entitled nannies on here! Dealing with the dishes in the kitchen has been a part of the job description of every nanny I have had, none have complained, and we paid standard nanny rates. Stay at home moms need to do all these things during their day, balancing child stuff with house stuff, so when I am out of the house, I expect the nannies to do the same. It's not that hard to empty a dishwasher while a 1-2 year old is sitting a few feet away having a snack.

Every nanny you’ve had? How many have you had?!

And it is not in my job description and responsibilities nor is it in OP’s. If it is in your nannies job descriptions, so be it. No one is acting entitled. OP’s question is valid and job-creep is a concern.

[Anonymous]

Emptying the dishwasher is not a task requested or outlined in her contract. Let’s make that clear.

And every nanny knows about “job creep” in one form or other.

Let’s try, just once, to stay on point.

[Anonymous]

Posted here before-
I’m still curious
Do Nannies
- hand wash only all the dishes they use, and while doing so ware valuable water and electricity
- or run dishwashers but only take out clean kids dishes and leave parents dishes in it?

I “collect” dishes in the fish washer, I throw all kids stuff in and the parents add their stuff, with only one child it’s not a lot, I also add my stuff, that way I save water, electricity, while disinfect everybody’s germs. Emptying the fish washer takes 5 minutes and I’ll do it while kid sleep, plays with books or toys near me, or does an art project or if I’m late I’ll do it while he eats dinner while taking to him or singing songs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Posted here before-
I’m still curious
Do Nannies
- hand wash only all the dishes they use, and while doing so ware valuable water and electricity
- or run dishwashers but only take out clean kids dishes and leave parents dishes in it?

I “collect” dishes in the fish washer, I throw all kids stuff in and the parents add their stuff, with only one child it’s not a lot, I also add my stuff, that way I save water, electricity, while disinfect everybody’s germs. Emptying the fish washer takes 5 minutes and I’ll do it while kid sleep, plays with books or toys near me, or does an art project or if I’m late I’ll do it while he eats dinner while taking to him or singing songs.

***while doing so waste valuable water