Fired for giving notice...again!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had one parent tell me that I wasn't welcome back because she couldn't leave her kids with someone that was "mad" at her. It was the most immature reaction to notice I've ever dealt with. I couldn't even properly say good bye to the kids I was so taken by surprise. She had arrived significantly late (at least 20 minutes) every day for the past month, and flipped out when I said something about it. I gave her notice even after her ridiculous behavior and that is how I was treated.

You just can't win OP, I'm sorry. My husband keeps telling me I should leave nannying because anyone who thinks their kid need one on one constant attention (a nanny) is probably pretty selfish and would make a bad boss.

My husband says the same. I am starting to think he is right. It always seems so with the families I have had.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This happens in non-nanny jobs. At my spouse's work everyone knows, when you turn in your two weeks notice your employment is terminated that day. If you have vacation time, you can use that, otherwise bye-bye.

Sucky things don't only happen to nannys

Where exactly are companies routinely firing employees after giving notice? They don't need to take time to fill the role? Or at least find someone who can cover the extra load? But since you can't figure out the plural of the word nanny (nannies), I'm guessing your husband isn't so bright either.

Where? Virginia. You must have very limited experience in the professional business world if don't know that is not an uncommon practice.

And you are so bright you know that spouse can only mean husband?

Also, I stated "terminated" not "fired" . Different words, different definitions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Welcome to the club, OP. This egregious employer behavior teaches us NOT to give notice. Plain and simple. We just keep getting burned, no matter how good we were to them.

Any practical advice from employers?
What do you tell your friends who do this?

Choose better employers. Nobody I am friends with treats their nannies this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP whose nanny gave notice along with with a bad lie. We sent her on her way the next day and released her from her notice period (she claimed she "had" to stop working ASAP). We have had two AMAZING nannies give notice before and we were truly sad to see them go. We paid them through their notice periods, gave them parting gifts, and encouraged future visits. One returned to work for us again between finishing her coursework and starting her career (she was an older student). The other still visits and sends texts.

Our most recent nanny had a history of dishonesty, avoiding work, and being all around kind of crappy. We did not choose to compensate her for her half-effort at being "professional". Lying on your way out is not professional. Don't expect to be rewarded for it.

[b]

This was the pregnant nanny yes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP whose nanny gave notice along with with a bad lie. We sent her on her way the next day and released her from her notice period (she claimed she "had" to stop working ASAP). We have had two AMAZING nannies give notice before and we were truly sad to see them go. We paid them through their notice periods, gave them parting gifts, and encouraged future visits. One returned to work for us again between finishing her coursework and starting her career (she was an older student). The other still visits and sends texts.

Our most recent nanny had a history of dishonesty, avoiding work, and being all around kind of crappy. We did not choose to compensate her for her half-effort at being "professional". Lying on your way out is not professional. Don't expect to be rewarded for it.

[b]

This was the pregnant nanny yes?

Yes. She said her doctor advised her she had to stop working right away but she would give us two weeks notice. When we told her the next day that she didn't need to complete the notice period - baby's health was more important and all - she backpedaled and said it was fine for her to work through her notice period, and stopping work was for the FUTURE of the pregnancy, and also she wanted the paycheck. If you're going to claim your pregnancy is in danger as a reason to end work, I am certainly not going to have you continue to work.

I'm still thinking through whether to pay her the six remaining work days she would have had in her notice period. I remain torn about it because she lied about hours she was working and what she was doing during those hours (for months), and she lied about why she was quitting. Now don't get me wrong, I'm grateful she quit (!) but I utterly cannot stand lying and excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP whose nanny gave notice along with with a bad lie. We sent her on her way the next day and released her from her notice period (she claimed she "had" to stop working ASAP). We have had two AMAZING nannies give notice before and we were truly sad to see them go. We paid them through their notice periods, gave them parting gifts, and encouraged future visits. One returned to work for us again between finishing her coursework and starting her career (she was an older student). The other still visits and sends texts.

Our most recent nanny had a history of dishonesty, avoiding work, and being all around kind of crappy. We did not choose to compensate her for her half-effort at being "professional". Lying on your way out is not professional. Don't expect to be rewarded for it.

[b]

This was the pregnant nanny yes?

Yes. She said her doctor advised her she had to stop working right away but she would give us two weeks notice. When we told her the next day that she didn't need to complete the notice period - baby's health was more important and all - she backpedaled and said it was fine for her to work through her notice period, and stopping work was for the FUTURE of the pregnancy, and also she wanted the paycheck. If you're going to claim your pregnancy is in danger as a reason to end work, I am certainly not going to have you continue to work.

I'm still thinking through whether to pay her the six remaining work days she would have had in her notice period. I remain torn about it because she lied about hours she was working and what she was doing during those hours (for months), and she lied about why she was quitting. Now don't get me wrong, I'm grateful she quit (!) but I utterly cannot stand lying and excuses.

PP have you considered that maybe she wasn't lying? Maybe she was advised to stop working, but she also really needs the money? Lots of nannies work right up to delivery and come back to work in a week or two, all out of financial necessity. I think your frustration with your nanny is clouding your judgement.

[Anonymous]

I can imagine many reasons not to want a nanny to come in for her entire notice period, but I can't imagine not paying her through her notice date if she gave the notice I asked for in the contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many reasons not to want a nanny to come in for her entire notice period, but I can't imagine not paying her through her notice date if she gave the notice I asked for in the contract.

I can. I haven't ever been in this situation, but i can imagine that by the time a nanny gives notice for. "badness of fit,"" there is resentment on both sides. And if it is so bad that I don't even feel like I can trust her with my kids when she quits...well, I can imagine when push comes to shove, and it is time to sit down and write that $2000 check it could be forgotten.

[Anonymous]

This is why I never put a notice requirement in my nanny contracts. If the relationship is good, people give as much notice as they can. If it is bad, you have employment at will. They can leave or you can fire them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what is posted here, it appears that many MBs are 24k
Witches. I am not a nanny.

What are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP whose nanny gave notice along with with a bad lie. We sent her on her way the next day and released her from her notice period (she claimed she "had" to stop working ASAP). We have had two AMAZING nannies give notice before and we were truly sad to see them go. We paid them through their notice periods, gave them parting gifts, and encouraged future visits. One returned to work for us again between finishing her coursework and starting her career (she was an older student). The other still visits and sends texts.

Our most recent nanny had a history of dishonesty, avoiding work, and being all around kind of crappy. We did not choose to compensate her for her half-effort at being "professional". Lying on your way out is not professional. Don't expect to be rewarded for it.

[b]

This was the pregnant nanny yes?

Yes. She said her doctor advised her she had to stop working right away but she would give us two weeks notice. When we told her the next day that she didn't need to complete the notice period - baby's health was more important and all - she backpedaled and said it was fine for her to work through her notice period, and stopping work was for the FUTURE of the pregnancy, and also she wanted the paycheck. If you're going to claim your pregnancy is in danger as a reason to end work, I am certainly not going to have you continue to work.

I'm still thinking through whether to pay her the six remaining work days she would have had in her notice period. I remain torn about it because she lied about hours she was working and what she was doing during those hours (for months), and she lied about why she was quitting. Now don't get me wrong, I'm grateful she quit (!) but I utterly cannot stand lying and excuses.

PP have you considered that maybe she wasn't lying? Maybe she was advised to stop working, but she also really needs the money? Lots of nannies work right up to delivery and come back to work in a week or two, all out of financial necessity. I think your frustration with your nanny is clouding your judgement.

Yes, I have considered that, and that's the only thing making me consider paying her through end of notice. That said, I don't think she was being honest. Her other big medical issue that she has been crying about the week prior suddenly became "no big deal at all" as well. It was just a series of inconsistent claims that made it really hard to believe what she had to say. I think she was trying to be an adult but was behaving like a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many reasons not to want a nanny to come in for her entire notice period, but I can't imagine not paying her through her notice date if she gave the notice I asked for in the contract.

I can. I haven't ever been in this situation, but i can imagine that by the time a nanny gives notice for. "badness of fit,"" there is resentment on both sides. And if it is so bad that I don't even feel like I can trust her with my kids when she quits...well, I can imagine when push comes to shove, and it is time to sit down and write that $2000 check it could be forgotten.

You reap what you sow. If your nanny gives you notice and you let her go without paying through the notice, the bad karma is completely on you.

[Anonymous]

Nanny here- I went through a rough patch with my employers after 4 years on the job. They wanted to replace me, so I was actively searching for jobs and they were actively searching for a new nanny. I gave a months notice. They asked me to stay the month and I was so professional, they actually decided to stop looking for a new job, apologized and asked me to stay. My thinking was that even though it's a notice period and I'm leaving anyways, I wanted to be the best I could be and as professional as possible until the end. They was 6 years ago and I'm still with the family, never had a problem since. The mom had PPD and the job became really difficult but ahe got help and so we all moved on. Anyways, all that is to say that both people should be professional when they leave the job. I wouldn't have stayed of my bosses were unprofessional.

[Anonymous]

OP says she's VERY part time. I'd probably pay through the notice period just because, but it's still hard to get too spun up about this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many reasons not to want a nanny to come in for her entire notice period, but I can't imagine not paying her through her notice date if she gave the notice I asked for in the contract.

Why aren't there more honest employers like you?