Nanny asked for large loan

[Anonymous]

Oh please try to tell us you don't call people names.

The point is that when you leave little children with someone you don't know, you are taking big risks.
Don't you read the paper?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact she even asked is crazy. Definitely say no. I'd also either pay her better or find someone more financially stable, with a better grasp of professional behavior!

This. Get someone you can afford.
What did you decide, OP??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please try to tell us you don't call people names.

The point is that when you leave little children with someone you don't know, you are taking big risks.
Don't you read the paper?

Where is the name calling in the quoted response?

[Anonymous]

Take your angry bitter self elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

I learned the hard way not to do this (see previous post about advancing nanny money).

Where are you located? I interviewed someone that was great but we had already decided on someone else. I could give you her contact info....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Daycare has it's own host of problems, like the kids (2 and 3 year olds) taking a neighborhood walk, with no teacher in sight. There is no easy solution here with child care.

don't be silly. 2 and 3 yr old in day care do not walk by themselves in any neighborhood. have you ever seen something like that? if so, I am sure you stopped the kids, called the police immediately and stayed with them until the police arrived. I am also sure the daycare lost the license if they let the kids go out like that alone. my kids have been going to days care since 2005 (the youngest is in her last year), and nothing similar to that has ever happened.

As long as you keep calling people names, you should be a big girl and shut up and take it when people call you names back.
Or you can stop it, and make some effort to engage yourself in some adult conversation.

I am 22:02. I do not understand this post. I did not call anybody names, and nobody called me names, so I do not understand what I should learn to take. I am an adult and thought I was having an adult conversation. this is why I pointed out that the situation mentioned by the poster (is this you?) was ridiculous, because no decent licensed daycare in DC let 2 and 3 yr kids walk by themselves in the neighborhood. if something like that had happened, it should have been reported to the police immediately. I asked the poster whether she witnesses something like that, and if she did, what did she do about it, since it was a situation that clearly required the police's intervention. BTW, I see that the poster did not respond to my question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daycare has it's own host of problems, like the kids (2 and 3 year olds) taking a neighborhood walk, with no teacher in sight. There is no easy solution here with child care.

don't be silly. 2 and 3 yr old in day care do not walk by themselves in any neighborhood. have you ever seen something like that? if so, I am sure you stopped the kids, called the police immediately and stayed with them until the police arrived. I am also sure the daycare lost the license if they let the kids go out like that alone. my kids have been going to days care since 2005 (the youngest is in her last year), and nothing similar to that has ever happened.

As long as you keep calling people names, you should be a big girl and shut up and take it when people call you names back.
Or you can stop it, and make some effort to engage yourself in some adult conversation.

I am 22:02. I do not understand this post. I did not call anybody names, and nobody called me names, so I do not understand what I should learn to take. I am an adult and thought I was having an adult conversation. this is why I pointed out that the situation mentioned by the poster (is this you?) was ridiculous, because no decent licensed daycare in DC let 2 and 3 yr kids walk by themselves in the neighborhood. if something like that had happened, it should have been reported to the police immediately. I asked the poster whether she witnesses something like that, and if she did, what did she do about it, since it was a situation that clearly required the police's intervention. BTW, I see that the poster did not respond to my question.

I'm a new poster, but I've seen stories about that sort of thing happening not infrequently - a child forgotten in the bathroom after the daycare was closed for the night, kids wandering off, etc. However, I also think PPs reply was completely out of line and also saw no name calling. You were responding like an adult and she wasn't.

The fact remains that there are no daycares that can provide the level of supervision a nanny can, but that doesn't mean a nanny is always the right choice (nor does it mean that ANY nanny is the right choice). I'm sorry you got burned by a terrible nanny but I do think writing off the entire field is unfair - I've been burned by terrible teachers, doctors, and policemen but I keep faith there are good ones out there. But if a daycare is what works for you, that's wonderful! Just know that there are loving, attentive, professional nannies out here too.

[Anonymous]

Wow OP, I have never been in this situation and would be horrified if my nanny, NEW nanny at that, asked for a 'loan' or 'advance pay' not once, twice but THREE times. HUGE red flag and VERY unprofessional. She doesn't need it. She either has horrible money management issues, or she's flushing her money down some drain, possibly an addiction or some sort?

PLEASE DONT LEND HER ANY MORE MONEY! I would have let her go the second time she asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daycare has it's own host of problems, like the kids (2 and 3 year olds) taking a neighborhood walk, with no teacher in sight. There is no easy solution here with child care.

don't be silly. 2 and 3 yr old in day care do not walk by themselves in any neighborhood. have you ever seen something like that? if so, I am sure you stopped the kids, called the police immediately and stayed with them until the police arrived. I am also sure the daycare lost the license if they let the kids go out like that alone. my kids have been going to days care since 2005 (the youngest is in her last year), and nothing similar to that has ever happened.

As long as you keep calling people names, you should be a big girl and shut up and take it when people call you names back.
Or you can stop it, and make some effort to engage yourself in some adult conversation.

I am 22:02. I do not understand this post. I did not call anybody names, and nobody called me names, so I do not understand what I should learn to take. I am an adult and thought I was having an adult conversation. this is why I pointed out that the situation mentioned by the poster (is this you?) was ridiculous, because no decent licensed daycare in DC let 2 and 3 yr kids walk by themselves in the neighborhood. if something like that had happened, it should have been reported to the police immediately. I asked the poster whether she witnesses something like that, and if she did, what did she do about it, since it was a situation that clearly required the police's intervention. BTW, I see that the poster did not respond to my question.

I'm a new poster, but I've seen stories about that sort of thing happening not infrequently - a child forgotten in the bathroom after the daycare was closed for the night, kids wandering off, etc. However, I also think PPs reply was completely out of line and also saw no name calling. You were responding like an adult and she wasn't.

The fact remains that there are no daycares that can provide the level of supervision a nanny can, but that doesn't mean a nanny is always the right choice (nor does it mean that ANY nanny is the right choice). I'm sorry you got burned by a terrible nanny but I do think writing off the entire field is unfair - I've been burned by terrible teachers, doctors, and policemen but I keep faith there are good ones out there. But if a daycare is what works for you, that's wonderful! Just know that there are loving, attentive, professional nannies out here too.

If you're getting "burned" by teachers, doctors and police officers then I think it has more to do with you then them. Meaning you're causing some issue. I can understand a sucky teacher and I'm sure alot of people can point out atleast one teacher they disliked. But doctors, and police officers as well? How are they burning you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These cheap nannies are no bargain in the long run. When do we learn?

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OP, I can't imagine that your price-point is right if this was the best nanny you interviewed in your search. This is completely unacceptable, inappropriate, and you should fire her immediately. I don't often advocate for that but this is going nowhere good - raise your hourly pay a little bit, search again, and find someone responsible and dependable.

Hourly rate isn't always the issue. Some woman can have 'nannies' their whole life because they couldn't get any real career. They could pretend they're oh so experienced, and they can even appear like a nanny worthy of a decent rate but the second you hire then they quickly turn into lazy slobs who aren't worthy of min wage, nevermind $15 or more an hour.

OP, I'm sure your hourly rate is great. Just because they claim to be experienced and professional doesn't make it true. Next time, look into the nannies experience, make sure she is responsible and has an Early Education degree or some sort, as well as First Aid and CPR Training. If she seems well qualified and gives a price, maybe offer an extra dollar on top. Don't just choose the nanny who wants $14 an hour, over the nanny who was more professional who wanted $17/hour. Look into their background, what qualities they have to offer (and not just 'experience'... I'm not even a nanny and I've had years of childcare experience. People will try to trick you into thinking their teenage babysitting gigs were considered four years experience. Lol.)

Also, set limits.. Tell this nanny to stop being a money-spending leech. One of these days she will ask you for a loan and then she wont show up for work so I hope you at least write the 'loan' on paper and have both of you sign it. So you can have proof. But please, for the love of God, don't advance her pay or loan her any more money. This is not normal and you're going to get USED.

[Anonymous]

I'm not the PP, but police mishandle victims and perpetrators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These cheap nannies are no bargain in the long run. When do we learn?

+1

OP, I can't imagine that your price-point is right if this was the best nanny you interviewed in your search. This is completely unacceptable, inappropriate, and you should fire her immediately. I don't often advocate for that but this is going nowhere good - raise your hourly pay a little bit, search again, and find someone responsible and dependable.

Hourly rate isn't always the issue. Some woman can have 'nannies' their whole life because they couldn't get any real career. They could pretend they're oh so experienced, and they can even appear like a nanny worthy of a decent rate but the second you hire then they quickly turn into lazy slobs who aren't worthy of min wage, nevermind $15 or more an hour.

OP, I'm sure your hourly rate is great. Just because they claim to be experienced and professional doesn't make it true. Next time, look into the nannies experience, make sure she is responsible and has an Early Education degree or some sort, as well as First Aid and CPR Training. If she seems well qualified and gives a price, maybe offer an extra dollar on top. Don't just choose the nanny who wants $14 an hour, over the nanny who was more professional who wanted $17/hour. Look into their background, what qualities they have to offer (and not just 'experience'... I'm not even a nanny and I've had years of childcare experience. People will try to trick you into thinking their teenage babysitting gigs were considered four years experience. Lol.)

Also, set limits.. Tell this nanny to stop being a money-spending leech. One of these days she will ask you for a loan and then she wont show up for work so I hope you at least write the 'loan' on paper and have both of you sign it. So you can have proof. But please, for the love of God, don't advance her pay or loan her any more money. This is not normal and you're going to get USED.

Meant to say **Some woman can BE nannies their whole life and claim to be professional and experienced but it doesn't make it true!**

Sorry, I typed to fast and didn't reread what I wrote like I usually do.!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These cheap nannies are no bargain in the long run. When do we learn?

+1

OP, I can't imagine that your price-point is right if this was the best nanny you interviewed in your search. This is completely unacceptable, inappropriate, and you should fire her immediately. I don't often advocate for that but this is going nowhere good - raise your hourly pay a little bit, search again, and find someone responsible and dependable.

Hourly rate isn't always the issue. Some woman can have 'nannies' their whole life because they couldn't get any real career. They could pretend they're oh so experienced, and they can even appear like a nanny worthy of a decent rate but the second you hire then they quickly turn into lazy slobs who aren't worthy of min wage, nevermind $15 or more an hour.

OP, I'm sure your hourly rate is great. Just because they claim to be experienced and professional doesn't make it true. Next time, look into the nannies experience, make sure she is responsible and has an Early Education degree or some sort, as well as First Aid and CPR Training. If she seems well qualified and gives a price, maybe offer an extra dollar on top. Don't just choose the nanny who wants $14 an hour, over the nanny who was more professional who wanted $17/hour. Look into their background, what qualities they have to offer (and not just 'experience'... I'm not even a nanny and I've had years of childcare experience. People will try to trick you into thinking their teenage babysitting gigs were considered four years experience. Lol.)

Also, set limits.. Tell this nanny to stop being a money-spending leech. One of these days she will ask you for a loan and then she wont show up for work so I hope you at least write the 'loan' on paper and have both of you sign it. So you can have proof. But please, for the love of God, don't advance her pay or loan her any more money. This is not normal and you're going to get USED.

Meant to say **Some woman can BE nannies their whole life and claim to be professional and experienced but it doesn't make it true!**

Sorry, I typed to fast and didn't reread what I wrote like I usually do.!!

I'm the PP you're replying to and I'd just like to ask how, exactly, you know her hourly rate is "great"? It may be, I could be mistaken that it's a factor here, but I don't think we have enough information to assume it's "great."