Cost of Additional Child?

[Anonymous]

In January, we will send our new baby to the same in-home childcare provider that our 2.5 year old currently goes to. We love her, she's amazing- but she doesn't like talking about money! We're trying to figure out what we should pay. Knowing her, she will not negotiate with whatever I suggest (as long as I'm reasonable), but I want her to be happy.

I should say that my daughter is the only child the provider cares for (other than her own 5 year old). She will not take on additional children either, so it's similar to a nanny, but the care is provided in her home.

Any thoughts for the cost of a additional child?

[Anonymous]

It is a daycare situation so normally there is not much of a discount if any for a second child. In a nanny situation there is normally less of a %age bump for a new baby usually. Since you have a foot in both camps I think splitting the difference is worth a shot.

[Anonymous]

Do you pay her hourly or a weekly rate?

[nannydebsays]

What do you pay now for care of your 2.5 yo? Has the cost changed at all over time?

I would plan on at least doubling what you pay her now. If I ran a family day care, I would have specific rates for specific ages, and offer a very slight 2nd child discount, but this woman isn't really a nanny or a FDC provider, so...

[Anonymous]

nannydebsays wrote:What do you pay now for care of your 2.5 yo? Has the cost changed at all over time?

I would plan on at least doubling what you pay her now. If I ran a family day care, I would have specific rates for specific ages, and offer a very slight 2nd child discount, but this woman isn't really a nanny or a FDC provider, so...

Why on earth would she "at least double" her pay?? That makes NO sense. Pay less than double, of course, since what you have here is like a nanny share with the woman's child. You NEVER double a nanny's pay for a second baby. Nice try though.

[Anonymous]

OP, what do you pay now? Is she licensed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

nannydebsays wrote:What do you pay now for care of your 2.5 yo? Has the cost changed at all over time?

I would plan on at least doubling what you pay her now. If I ran a family day care, I would have specific rates for specific ages, and offer a very slight 2nd child discount, but this woman isn't really a nanny or a FDC provider, so...

Why on earth would she "at least double" her pay?? That makes NO sense. Pay less than double, of course, since what you have here is like a nanny share with the woman's child. You NEVER double a nanny's pay for a second baby. Nice try though.

She's a daycare provider, so of course you double her pay for her doubling her workload. Or she can offer you a sibling discount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

nannydebsays wrote:What do you pay now for care of your 2.5 yo? Has the cost changed at all over time?

I would plan on at least doubling what you pay her now. If I ran a family day care, I would have specific rates for specific ages, and offer a very slight 2nd child discount, but this woman isn't really a nanny or a FDC provider, so...

Why on earth would she "at least double" her pay?? That makes NO sense. Pay less than double, of course, since what you have here is like a nanny share with the woman's child. You NEVER double a nanny's pay for a second baby. Nice try though.

She's a daycare provider, so of course you double her pay for her doubling her workload. Or she can offer you a sibling discount.

She's NOT a daycare provider. She only has one other child who happens to be her own. As a PP said it is basically a nanny share with the nannies child as the other child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

nannydebsays wrote:What do you pay now for care of your 2.5 yo? Has the cost changed at all over time?

I would plan on at least doubling what you pay her now. If I ran a family day care, I would have specific rates for specific ages, and offer a very slight 2nd child discount, but this woman isn't really a nanny or a FDC provider, so...

Why on earth would she "at least double" her pay?? That makes NO sense. Pay less than double, of course, since what you have here is like a nanny share with the woman's child. You NEVER double a nanny's pay for a second baby. Nice try though.

She's a daycare provider, so of course you double her pay for her doubling her workload. Or she can offer you a sibling discount.

She's NOT a daycare provider. She only has one other child who happens to be her own. As a PP said it is basically a nanny share with the nannies child as the other child.

You should really learn the laws before you make such a fool of yourself.

[Anonymous]

This depends on the laws within your state. Considering she cares for your child in her home, she could be a home daycare provider. However, in order to run a legal in home daycare you need to be licensed.

I guess what will determine whether she sees herself as a nanny or daycare provider is the rate you pay her now. If it's $400 or less than those are daycare rates and you should double the rate you pay now, maybe with a small sibling discount. Many home daycare providers care for their own children along with others so that fact doesn't change rates.

Now if you're paying a nanny rate with benefits than you would just up it too a rate for two in a share.

[Anonymous]

What are you paying her, OP?

[Anonymous]

We pay $180/week for three-days of care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We pay $180/week for three-days of care.

So pay her an extra $160 for your second child. Those are very low home daycare rates, you are very lucky.

[Anonymous]

I actually would double it if I were you. I couldn't in good conscious pay any less.

[nannydebsays]

Anonymous wrote:

nannydebsays wrote:What do you pay now for care of your 2.5 yo? Has the cost changed at all over time?

I would plan on at least doubling what you pay her now. If I ran a family day care, I would have specific rates for specific ages, and offer a very slight 2nd child discount, but this woman isn't really a nanny or a FDC provider, so...

Why on earth would she "at least double" her pay?? That makes NO sense. Pay less than double, of course, since what you have here is like a nanny share with the woman's child. You NEVER double a nanny's pay for a second baby. Nice try though.

Well, obviously I think the caregiver is more like a family daycare provider than a nanny. I also was curious as to what the caregiver was being paid, because that would, frankly, dictate the answer to the question. If the OP is paying, say, $250/week for her 2.5 yo to spend 40+ hours a week in daycare, then doubling the cost is not only logical, it's necessary. If OP is paying $600/week for 40+ hours of care for a 2.5 yo, then the cost needn't double, but the provider is going to still expect a significant jump.