Am I bring fair????Part Two
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Anonymous
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Here's a copy of the first post:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/277685.page#2983799 Note- I did discuss with them using my grandmother as my sub which they agreed to so I wouldn't have to have time off unpaided. I sat down and talked to the parents and we came to an agreement. But I'm still feeling a bit milked. Here are my concerns. 2. Family Vacation – The Nanny is aware that the family will be taking vacation for approximately a week and a half this summer, during which the Nanny will continue to receive payment with the understanding that she will have the following additional duties: caring for the dog to include twice daily feedings, multiple opportunities to relieve himself in the yard each day, and opportunities for daily exercise to include a walk; additional duties will include hot tub maintenance such as adding appropriate water treatment and checking pH balance every day, and bringing in mail/newspapers, and generally keeping the home tidy. My concern with this is when we sat down I told them them I might be taking my own vacation at the same time. Honestly I don't think it's fair for my vacation time to have to be used as a housesitter. Also I only work three days for them a week but this would require me to do do eight days straight at there home. If not this means a lot of commuting and going back and forth. I think it's fair I charge extra. 8. Changing Work Days – From time to time, Mom may be asked to work on a Tuesday or Thursday instead of the usual Monday, Wednesday or Friday. In this case, the parents ask the Nanny to make every effort to accommodate the change in schedule (including Nanny’s Grandmother as substitute) with the understanding that the total number of work hours for the 2-week period will not change (for example, a Wednesday Nanny day would change to a Thursday Nanny day). My concern with this is that they know I work a second job on Tuesdays and Thursdays and when moms days switch it usually requires me to call out for that day. Since i have to be at the other job by 5 and she cant be home until, 6. Even though I'm soon planning to quit this job to find another nanny job for Tuesdays and Thursdays I more than likely will not be available. AM I STILL BEING FAIR??????? |
Anonymous
| Did you already agree to this contract? It sounds like you asked for changes and negotiated an agreement. If that's the case, why post here now? Are you going to go back and ask for changes yet again? If you haven't come to an agreement, and these are excerpts from some sort of proposal or draft, then that's a totally different situation. |
Anonymous
| No this is not signed yet |
Anonymous
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Re: the scheduling changes, my contract has specific guidelines. It says that my employers can request the odd schedule change and if I can accommodate it, I will, but if it is with less than one month's notice and I an not available, I am paid anyway. If it is more than one month's notice and I'm not available, I am not paid (this has never happened though). Think about how something like this could work for you - perhaps some guidelines on how much notice you'd want, as well as how far in advance you'd be willing to commit to changing your schedule OR losing the day's pay, and how many times per month you'd be comfortable with this happening. You need to be very specific about when you will be taking fiscal responsibility for not working a day and lose that day's pay [rarely] and when your MB will take responsibility for paying you [majority]. You could also agree to accept all Tue/Thur schedule changes with very little notice provided you were relieved by 4:30pm. You need to explain either way, and even if you have told them so before, that you have another job you have to go to on Tue/Thur evenings and you cannot call out of it. If you like, you can offer her the names of any other nannies/sitters who might have daytime availability to work if you can't, but be clear that you'd still be getting paid every week for your MWF hours (and tell her, "of course if you have a Monday off I'd still be happy to come in")
Re: the holiday - I had a whole answer typed out and then I thought about what that really means. You only work 3 days a week for them but you'd be working 8 days in a row during their vacation?! I think the ONLY sensible thing to do is take your PTO time that week - and when you use PTO time, you are not responsible for any extra duties. It's actually kind of insane that they expect you to come every day they're away even though you're a very PT employee, but it sounds like that plan was under the assumption you'd be using your vacation another time. Clarify that with them (and with us, if I have it wrong) and let them know you would like to simplify that issue by agreeing to take your vacation time while they're away and scrap the whole clause. [if you don't get PTO, then say so because that is a whole different scenario] |
Anonymous
| You are a really cheap horse's ass, OP, and I hope your nanny finds a new job. |
Anonymous
| This is the nanny talking about her employer |
Anonymous
| I would not agree to this. I work 30 hours in 3 days for my employer and MB recently asked me if I could work on a Thursday. She know I am committed to another family and I thought that asking was rude and inconsiderate. My thoughts? Start looking for a new job. Some families want a nanny at a babysitters pay. This is common and understandable, but will not work for a professional nanny. You have brought your concerns to them and they obviously do not think they are fair or deserved. I would negotiate what you can, and that may mean no pay on their vacation, and I would start looking immediately! There are basic benefits that MB & DB require for their careers, why should you be treated so differently? Ask them if they get paid vacation. I would not be willing to work beyond my regular schedule for their vacation. I personally wouldn't do it at all, but some nannies do. You should be getting vacation time as well, so nannies do this only when it does not align with their 2 weeks of vacation. START LOOKING ELSEWHERE! |
Anonymous
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Oy vey. I don't have the energy to try to decipher the specifics but you sound like you're just continuing to whine about a situation that wasn't set up properly in the beginning, for which you reached an agreement, but you're still not happy.
Nightmare. |
Anonymous
| I honestly am just trying to make it work with this family. Yes we were wrong to not bring this up in the beginning so we ate just trying to make it work now. |
Anonymous
Then quit whining! SO annoying. If you're still not happy be productive and look for a new job! |
Anonymous
How about if you don't like my posts soooo much then don't read them nobody forces you to respond... |
Anonymous
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It seems pretty clear to me that they only want to pay you for 30 hours worth of work if you're doing an equivalent amount of work, not necessarily at the same time. So, you didn't get them to agree to guaranteed hours.
Also, if you plan to take a vacation while they're gone, they're not obligated to pay you unless you use PTO -- guaranteed hours mean that you're available to work. Many families don't require the nanny to do anything while they're gone, so she can take that time off totally, but others do. |
Anonymous
| Well, we are planning to sit down and talk again today. I've already started looking for a new job. I also have been thinking of moving out of state for a while so this might be the perfect time. I guess we will just see how it goes. Honestly the money is not that much worth it to keep going through all of this. |
Anonymous
| OP I posted a long and at least moderately helpful response but the only people you're responding to are your critics. You are coming across as immature and this will be the last time I comment on any of your threads. |
Anonymous
I'm sorry I took so long to respond, since I was At work I couldn't read threw everything I sat down and talked with them and brought forth these suggestions they said they're considering it.... |