Overnight shift, pay?

[Anonymous]

I nanny for an amazing family currently. I have been talking with another family who would require overnight shifts during the week. I would arrive after the children are sleeping (most of the time) and stay overnight and then get them ready and take them to school in the morning. MB is a police officer and DB is in the military but currently deployed. What would be appropriate compensation to ask for? I am payed 15/hr at my current nanny job and have a lot of experience, but I don't want to overcharge them. I'm unsure whether to ask for a weekly/daily rate or hourly. In addition there would be a 30 minute drive (each way) from my home to theirs.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Re: the 30 minutes drive -- you can't charge for the commute to their home from yours, only decide if it's too much for you or if it's something you can live with.

I think if it were me I would charge a weekly rate, based on my regular overnight rate + hourly rate when the kids were awake, but I would ask to do a week-long trial run to make sure it was something I had the stamina for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: the 30 minutes drive -- you can't charge for the commute to their home from yours, only decide if it's too much for you or if it's something you can live with.

I think if it were me I would charge a weekly rate, based on my regular overnight rate + hourly rate when the kids were awake, but I would ask to do a week-long trial run to make sure it was something I had the stamina for.

OP here. Thanks for the advice and I think the week-long trial is an awesome suggestion. Stamina is definitely going to be needed....hahaha!

[Anonymous]

I'd let them make you an offer, and negotiate from there.

[Anonymous]

I suggested 100/night. Not sure if that was the right ballpark but that is what I have received in the past so hopefully it was appropriate.

[Anonymous]

I love that both parents are in service, cop and military. They're probably more trustworthy than your average lawyer parents. Hopefully, they'll offer you the very best they can do. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like the kids are older so they should be sleeping through the night. Most people think that $50 - $75 is fair for sleeping hours and I agree. If it were a one-time weekend night and the kids were younger then maybe I would say up to $100. Of course for any hours when the children are awake you should charge your normal rate.

[Anonymous]

I'd also take into account where you will be sleeping. Couch? Air mattress? Guest bedroom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the kids are older so they should be sleeping through the night. Most people think that $50 - $75 is fair for sleeping hours and I agree. If it were a one-time weekend night and the kids were younger then maybe I would say up to $100. Of course for any hours when the children are awake you should charge your normal rate.

So maybe do a flat rate and then charge additional for the waking hours when I am tending to the children in the morning and getting them to school/daycare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the kids are older so they should be sleeping through the night. Most people think that $50 - $75 is fair for sleeping hours and I agree. If it were a one-time weekend night and the kids were younger then maybe I would say up to $100. Of course for any hours when the children are awake you should charge your normal rate.

So maybe do a flat rate and then charge additional for the waking hours when I am tending to the children in the morning and getting them to school/daycare?

That is generally how people do overnights, yes.

[Anonymous]

You legally do not get paid for 8hrs overnight while sleeping. So only claim your awake time. If you work 7pm- 7am, you can only get paid for 4hrs of that time. So 4x$15 is $60 a night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You legally do not get paid for 8hrs overnight while sleeping. So only claim your awake time. If you work 7pm- 7am, you can only get paid for 4hrs of that time. So 4x$15 is $60 a night.

Regardless of what she claims she should still be compensated for the overnight time, even if it is only a flat rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You legally do not get paid for 8hrs overnight while sleeping. So only claim your awake time. If you work 7pm- 7am, you can only get paid for 4hrs of that time. So 4x$15 is $60 a night.

And if she doesn't get to sleep 8 hours? Does she get nothing for the inconvenience of not sleeping in her own bed? I understand that there are legal minimums, but it doesn't mean they CAN'T pay her for that time, and if they offered to only pay for the working hours in the morning that is no incentive for someone to sleep over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You legally do not get paid for 8hrs overnight while sleeping. So only claim your awake time. If you work 7pm- 7am, you can only get paid for 4hrs of that time. So 4x$15 is $60 a night.

What kind of complete nonsense is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You legally do not get paid for 8hrs overnight while sleeping. So only claim your awake time. If you work 7pm- 7am, you can only get paid for 4hrs of that time. So 4x$15 is $60 a night.

What kind of complete nonsense is that?

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Total nonsense. OP, of course you get paid for the overnight. Don't listen to them.