“Flex hours” for nanny?

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Anonymous wrote:Most nannies won't do this. We have lives outside of work and do not want to give up on planning things further in advance just because you want flexible care. You need to schedule the hours that you might want to use and then just pay for any that you don't end up having the nanny work.

If you can't afford 40+ hours per week, then you can't afford a nanny and should just stick to daycare. They don't care if you pay for a FT schedule and pick the kid up early. A nanny will also require the exact same thing, any potential hours you might want to have them available to work needs to be "saved for you" and paid for regardless of if you use them or not.

Stop with the you can't afford a nanny nonsense. She obviously can!! And FYI there are plenty nannies who just want 30hrs
We paid our nanny 40hrs though she only worked 35 plus benefits and gas. Rate was 27 an hour. We finally went the daycare route not because we couldn't afford it because your attitude suck and the entitled behavior. Daycare has been a blessing. Less drama and more reliable care. Nannies have become very entitled since the pandemic.

Do you have a job or do you just sit on the couch every day? What do you mean by entitled?
If you worked at a bank and your hours are M- F 8-12pm, but in order to keep this job you have to agree to an extra 5h a week, and your boss will choose them for you. Your bank closes at 5pm every day. So now you have to be sitting next to your phone M- F 12-5pm and wait when he will need you.
Would you work this job? I’ll answer for you: hell now!
You think we’re Nannie’s are still entitled?

This is pretty common in the rest of the working world. Many of us go to work not knowing when we'll be finished.

Right, hence the salary you earn. Nannies are hourly employees.

It's much more common in the hourly world than the salary world.

People go in to work all the time, not knowing if they're going to be asked to take a double shift, or sent home early because business is slow. The difference from here is that they aren't paid unless they work. The "guaranteed hour" phenonmenon is not one in any other field except nannies.

[Anonymous]

PP from above,

I'm not saying that it will be easy for an employer to get someone who will do this. I'm just saying that it's common in many fields.

[Anonymous]

People from those fields you are describing are very unlikely to be able to afford a nanny. Nannies are such a luxury. If you cannot afford nanny there is no shame in that, very few of us can, but do not try to say that shifting hours around the week is normal. It is not!

[Anonymous]

I don’t think what you’re proposing will work. We do flex hours but that’s by mutual agreement because sometimes we like to go to our beach house earlier on a Friday.

In that case I talk to our nanny and her guaranteed forty hour schedule shifts. BUT she can always say no and she likes it because she’s young and can do happy hour and stuff then on Friday.

[Anonymous]

I’m a physician who does shift work, so we had to hire our nanny with a Flex Time system. We guaranteed 48 hours a week (4 12 hour shifts weekly with 8 hours of OT) Our nanny knew she would work a total of 2 weekend “shifts” a month. She was also guaranteed Wednesdays off. I could request 8 days of a month (specific days not to work - not vacation), and she could give us 4-6 each month to request on her behalf. Finally, she’d get her schedule a month in advance, right when I got mine.

I love working shifts and having plenty of weekdays off. Worked well for our nanny as well.
It has the added benefit of being able to work in “mini vacations” without actually using vacation time. If she wanted she could condense shifts and get 6 days off in a row. Or just use a few days of vacation and pretty much get two weeks off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone hired a nanny for say 35 hours a week on a regular schedule, plus 5 hours a week that are offered but moved around? How would this work? I heard a friend talking about this but I didn’t totally understand and don’t know how common it is. Do you give a weeks notice? Do you pay even if she can’t do those hours (which of course would seem to incentivize never being available for the extra hours)?

Who in their right mind would accept a job like this?!

[Anonymous]

Flex hours, like banking hours, is illegal.

[Anonymous]

Nanny here. Don’t listen to these people…. It’s not banking hours, if the additional 5 hours are still within the same week. It’s rude to use them on the weekend, though. I wouldn’t mind it too much, if I had a 2-4 weeks notice, it’s really just one evening….. entitled Nannie’s won’t take your job, but hey, at least you’ll weed out Nannie’s that just want to sit around and get paid, honestly. If you really like a nanny in an interview, just try to negotiate it, and see if she’s ok with it, how much notice she needs… and try to work with her on it. If they all say no, I’d say pick ONE evening a week and make it the same weekday every week, and pay them weekly for all the hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Most nannies won't do this. We have lives outside of work and do not want to give up on planning things further in advance just because you want flexible care. You need to schedule the hours that you might want to use and then just pay for any that you don't end up having the nanny work.

If you can't afford 40+ hours per week, then you can't afford a nanny and should just stick to daycare. They don't care if you pay for a FT schedule and pick the kid up early. A nanny will also require the exact same thing, any potential hours you might want to have them available to work needs to be "saved for you" and paid for regardless of if you use them or not.

Stop with the you can't afford a nanny nonsense. She obviously can!! And FYI there are plenty nannies who just want 30hrs
We paid our nanny 40hrs though she only worked 35 plus benefits and gas. Rate was 27 an hour. We finally went the daycare route not because we couldn't afford it because your attitude suck and the entitled behavior. Daycare has been a blessing. Less drama and more reliable care. Nannies have become very entitled since the pandemic.

Do you have a job or do you just sit on the couch every day? What do you mean by entitled?
If you worked at a bank and your hours are M- F 8-12pm, but in order to keep this job you have to agree to an extra 5h a week, and your boss will choose them for you. Your bank closes at 5pm every day. So now you have to be sitting next to your phone M- F 12-5pm and wait when he will need you.
Would you work this job? I’ll answer for you: hell now!
You think we’re Nannie’s are still entitled?

This is pretty common in the rest of the working world. Many of us go to work not knowing when we'll be finished.

Right, hence the salary you earn. Nannies are hourly employees.

It's much more common in the hourly world than the salary world.

People go in to work all the time, not knowing if they're going to be asked to take a double shift, or sent home early because business is slow. The difference from here is that they aren't paid unless they work. The "guaranteed hour" phenonmenon is not one in any other field except nannies.

Those jobs are waitstaff, retail, etc. Nobody cares about the turnover rate. Do you care about turnover for your child's care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a physician who does shift work, so we had to hire our nanny with a Flex Time system. We guaranteed 48 hours a week (4 12 hour shifts weekly with 8 hours of OT) Our nanny knew she would work a total of 2 weekend “shifts” a month. She was also guaranteed Wednesdays off. I could request 8 days of a month (specific days not to work - not vacation), and she could give us 4-6 each month to request on her behalf. Finally, she’d get her schedule a month in advance, right when I got mine.

I love working shifts and having plenty of weekdays off. Worked well for our nanny as well.
It has the added benefit of being able to work in “mini vacations” without actually using vacation time. If she wanted she could condense shifts and get 6 days off in a row. Or just use a few days of vacation and pretty much get two weeks off.

This is a flex schedule with a month notice for shifts. It's not as easy to find a nanny to work it, but it's not impossible due to many of the reasons you listed. However, it's not the same as having last minute flex time every week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nanny here. Don’t listen to these people…. It’s not banking hours, if the additional 5 hours are still within the same week. It’s rude to use them on the weekend, though. I wouldn’t mind it too much, if I had a 2-4 weeks notice, it’s really just one evening….. entitled Nannie’s won’t take your job, but hey, at least you’ll weed out Nannie’s that just want to sit around and get paid, honestly. If you really like a nanny in an interview, just try to negotiate it, and see if she’s ok with it, how much notice she needs… and try to work with her on it. If they all say no, I’d say pick ONE evening a week and make it the same weekday every week, and pay them weekly for all the hours.

It’s me again
I didn’t realize you want to use the 5 hours “anytime”?
I thought it was more for like date night…
What exactly are you looking for? What days and hours are the 30 hours for? Is that a set schedule? Than you just want to add the 5 hours “whenever”?