Enough already

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's $18.75 per hour. That's reasonable. With a day care you have lots of overhead so its not comparable.

You think it’s reasonable bc you don’t value childcare providers. You refuse to see childcare as a hard and demanding job for anyone other than mothers. If someone told you being a mother was easy you would be offended.

I've been a child care worker making much less. If you can get $25 an hour, great but not everyone can afford to pay that which is why they go to a share. Can you afford $500-800 a week for child care. Being a mother is easy. Its not a hard or demanding job. Its not equal to being a mother as mothers, in most situations do far more than a child care provider.

Wow being a mother is harder than being a nanny? It’s practically the same job- coming from a mom. We cook, clean, change diapers, do crafts, attend appointments, arrange activities, care for sick child, kiss boo-boos, sing, read etc., the only difference is for a few months (if your lucky) you have to wake up in the middle of the night and I get to go home at the same time (if I’m lucky) everyday. We are with the children anywhere between 9-12 hours a day and then you throw in another child? I love my job and I do it well. I’ve been a teacher in daycare as well, and honestly, being a nanny is a lot more demanding. All of the families I work with call me their child’s second mom because they know what it entails and how much their kid loves me. I, however, don’t ever cross those boundaries and I’ve had families who literally don’t even see their child until the weekend when everyone is home together.

And all that I just stated is why you can’t compare a nanny to daycare and why typically, a career nanny who knows her worth gets paid accordingly. If you want, I’ll let you know what these next 2 families offer during my phone interview tomorrow.

Most nannies don't cook and clean. Most don't have to worry about maintaining a house, paying the bills, yard work, car repairs, etc. For nannies, that is your job. You aren't doing an outside job as well 40-60 hours a week. What nannies do is important so parents can work but it is not at all equal. Its a job. Have your own kid, get child care for that kid and then nanny and let us know what its like working 8-10 hours a day, then coming home to all that you have to do and your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tons of good daycare that costs around $1600 per child too, with discount for second child. You are expecting too much. Should've looked for a different job. Why don't you become a doctor or lawyer instead?

Go away, Fat Troll. We all know who you are.

This made me laugh. First off, all lawyers don’t make that much and I went to medical school: I attended Grey Solan Memorial in Seattle. Now, shut up! I just told you how much daycare is in our area and even if it $1600 per month, I need the extra $100 they’re trying to short change me. You also didn’t read further comments. I told them my rate upfront and they acted as if it worked for them.

You went to medical school and are a nanny now. You have bigger issues. Day care is $1100-2400 or so in DC area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's $18.75 per hour. That's reasonable. With a day care you have lots of overhead so its not comparable.

For a single baby, it may be reasonable. It’s not reasonable for a share.

[Anonymous]

The industry standard for shares is that each family pays 2/3 to 3/4 of the nanny’s single family rate for the number of children the family has in the share.

If OP’s single family one child rate is $20/hour, then each family in a share would need to pay around $13-15 per hour for a share involving one baby from each family.

$26-30 per hour for a share with 2 families/2 infants is appropriate. $18.75 is laughable unless the families are employing a brand new nanny with minimal experience.

Even in a share, nanny care is still often the most expensive childcare option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:That's $18.75 per hour. That's reasonable. With a day care you have lots of overhead so its not comparable.

You think it’s reasonable bc you don’t value childcare providers. You refuse to see childcare as a hard and demanding job for anyone other than mothers. If someone told you being a mother was easy you would be offended.

I've been a child care worker making much less. If you can get $25 an hour, great but not everyone can afford to pay that which is why they go to a share. Can you afford $500-800 a week for child care. Being a mother is easy. Its not a hard or demanding job. Its not equal to being a mother as mothers, in most situations do far more than a child care provider.

Wow being a mother is harder than being a nanny? It’s practically the same job- coming from a mom. We cook, clean, change diapers, do crafts, attend appointments, arrange activities, care for sick child, kiss boo-boos, sing, read etc., the only difference is for a few months (if your lucky) you have to wake up in the middle of the night and I get to go home at the same time (if I’m lucky) everyday. We are with the children anywhere between 9-12 hours a day and then you throw in another child? I love my job and I do it well. I’ve been a teacher in daycare as well, and honestly, being a nanny is a lot more demanding. All of the families I work with call me their child’s second mom because they know what it entails and how much their kid loves me. I, however, don’t ever cross those boundaries and I’ve had families who literally don’t even see their child until the weekend when everyone is home together.

And all that I just stated is why you can’t compare a nanny to daycare and why typically, a career nanny who knows her worth gets paid accordingly. If you want, I’ll let you know what these next 2 families offer during my phone interview tomorrow.

Most nannies don't cook and clean. Most don't have to worry about maintaining a house, paying the bills, yard work, car repairs, etc. For nannies, that is your job. You aren't doing an outside job as well 40-60 hours a week. What nannies do is important so parents can work but it is not at all equal. Its a job. Have your own kid, get child care for that kid and then nanny and let us know what its like working 8-10 hours a day, then coming home to all that you have to do and your kids.

You’re right. Nannies have to worry about all of that for their own family on top of providing care for your child. You get to go into work, schedule appointments, take off for said appointments, take off for mental health days while your nanny provides care for your child. While your nanny spends every second of the day making sure your child is thriving, safe, comfortable, happy and alive. You get to go into work. You’re right, it’s not comparable. As a parent you know how hard raising a child is. Why would you diminish that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's $18.75 per hour. That's reasonable. With a day care you have lots of overhead so its not comparable.

You think it’s reasonable bc you don’t value childcare providers. You refuse to see childcare as a hard and demanding job for anyone other than mothers. If someone told you being a mother was easy you would be offended.

I've been a child care worker making much less. If you can get $25 an hour, great but not everyone can afford to pay that which is why they go to a share. Can you afford $500-800 a week for child care. Being a mother is easy. Its not a hard or demanding job. Its not equal to being a mother as mothers, in most situations do far more than a child care provider.

So bc you sucked as a childcare provider and had to accept the lowest wage everyone else should as well? If a family can not afford my rate or even a decent rate that’s not my problem. I don’t lower my rate to accommodate families who should be looking into daycare. If you want to then go right ahead. Maybe if you set your standards higher and presented yourself professionally you wouldn’t have to take just any job. Sorry I can’t relate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The industry standard for shares is that each family pays 2/3 to 3/4 of the nanny’s single family rate for the number of children the family has in the share.

If OP’s single family one child rate is $20/hour, then each family in a share would need to pay around $13-15 per hour for a share involving one baby from each family.

$26-30 per hour for a share with 2 families/2 infants is appropriate. $18.75 is laughable unless the families are employing a brand new nanny with minimal experience.

Even in a share, nanny care is still often the most expensive childcare option.

I know people in a share who pay $18/hr total. They gave her a raise last year to $19/hr. This is in Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The industry standard for shares is that each family pays 2/3 to 3/4 of the nanny’s single family rate for the number of children the family has in the share.

If OP’s single family one child rate is $20/hour, then each family in a share would need to pay around $13-15 per hour for a share involving one baby from each family.

$26-30 per hour for a share with 2 families/2 infants is appropriate. $18.75 is laughable unless the families are employing a brand new nanny with minimal experience.

Even in a share, nanny care is still often the most expensive childcare option.

I know people in a share who pay $18/hr total. They gave her a raise last year to $19/hr. This is in Arlington.

They hired an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The industry standard for shares is that each family pays 2/3 to 3/4 of the nanny’s single family rate for the number of children the family has in the share.

If OP’s single family one child rate is $20/hour, then each family in a share would need to pay around $13-15 per hour for a share involving one baby from each family.

$26-30 per hour for a share with 2 families/2 infants is appropriate. $18.75 is laughable unless the families are employing a brand new nanny with minimal experience.

Even in a share, nanny care is still often the most expensive childcare option.

I know people in a share who pay $18/hr total. They gave her a raise last year to $19/hr. This is in Arlington.

So either they have an inexperienced nanny or a nanny who doesn’t know industry standards. ?????

[Anonymous]

I make $23 (blended rate) for twins. I could easily make $20 an hour for a singleton. No way would I take on the hassle of a share with two sets of parents and two divergent schedules for less than I can make for a singleton.

That said, it is fine for families to put lower rates out there. There are probably nannies with less experience and professional development and industry knowledge who would be happy with that rate and some of them are also adequate caregivers up to the challenge of a share.

The problem OP is complaining about is NOT families advertising rates she would not accept. It is families who have been told “my rate range is X-Y” who then offer the nanny significantly less than her lower range. It’s annoying, but I think some people just have no idea what industry standards are wrt negotiation. For any experienced nanny, if she says, my rate is X, that’s the rate. If you offer slightly less and make up for it somewhere in the benefits package, maybe we can talk, but this is not like buying a car where prices are inflated because they assume you will bargain them down. My bottom rate is the minimum of what I can comfortably live on. I am not going to be scrambling to make rent because you were such a tough negotiator. I am just going to find an employer who can afford me.

[Anonymous]

This is honestly offensive. For two newborns in a share I was getting $30/hr (I do have twin experience so that was a factor) but anything less than $24/hr is laughable IMO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's $18.75 per hour. That's reasonable. With a day care you have lots of overhead so its not comparable.

You think it’s reasonable bc you don’t value childcare providers. You refuse to see childcare as a hard and demanding job for anyone other than mothers. If someone told you being a mother was easy you would be offended.

I've been a child care worker making much less. If you can get $25 an hour, great but not everyone can afford to pay that which is why they go to a share. Can you afford $500-800 a week for child care. Being a mother is easy. Its not a hard or demanding job. Its not equal to being a mother as mothers, in most situations do far more than a child care provider.

People who can't afford child care should not have children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's $18.75 per hour. That's reasonable. With a day care you have lots of overhead so its not comparable.

You think it’s reasonable bc you don’t value childcare providers. You refuse to see childcare as a hard and demanding job for anyone other than mothers. If someone told you being a mother was easy you would be offended.

I've been a child care worker making much less. If you can get $25 an hour, great but not everyone can afford to pay that which is why they go to a share. Can you afford $500-800 a week for child care. Being a mother is easy. Its not a hard or demanding job. Its not equal to being a mother as mothers, in most situations do far more than a child care provider.

People who can't afford child care should not have children.

And damn sure shouldn’t be trying to hire a nanny. Their budget is in home daycare.