Going rate for taking care of 2 yo and 4 yo?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, for a discussion of special needs related issues go to the Kids with Special Needs thread on the Parenting Forum - great and experienced people there.

For a nanny, if you advertise a position in Rockville at $20-22/hr you will be FLOODED with applicants. You would really be able to pick the best fit for your family's needs.

- Kensington mom of one borderline special needs kid, and who's hired a handful of nannies over the years

Hiring a handful of nannies isn't great, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I don’t think a nanny is the right path for us. He actually likes daycare just not his current class. I think we need to find a smaller sized class for him. He didn’t have these problems in his twos class with better teacher to student ratios.

I think you are right, OP. Having a nanny isn't right for your situation and budget.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, for a discussion of special needs related issues go to the Kids with Special Needs thread on the Parenting Forum - great and experienced people there.

For a nanny, if you advertise a position in Rockville at $20-22/hr you will be FLOODED with applicants. You would really be able to pick the best fit for your family's needs.

- Kensington mom of one borderline special needs kid, and who's hired a handful of nannies over the years

Hiring a handful of nannies isn't great, PP.

Yep, been on this board a while so knew I would get that.

First nanny - 3.5 yrs with us until active preschoolers were too much for her physically. We (and the kids) see her regularly and sometimes she comes to family holidays, birthday parties, etc...
Second nanny - one year w/ us, left to become a social worker.
Third nanny has been with us for 2.5 years so far.

Also, one interim short term nanny hired to cover an extended absence of first nanny when she needed surgery and was out for 6 weeks.

So all told I've interviewed a lot of nannies, with what I consider very successful results. They've all been great. None have been compensated in excess of $20/hr.

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

In other words, you took away one method of learning without substituting a different, better method (interaction with an adult). And rather than teaching your child a new bedtime routine (minimum of 2 weeks to know if it can be successful), you caved and gave back blue screens just before bed.

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

I just can't imagine any professional thinking that this is a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, for a discussion of special needs related issues go to the Kids with Special Needs thread on the Parenting Forum - great and experienced people there.

For a nanny, if you advertise a position in Rockville at $20-22/hr you will be FLOODED with applicants. You would really be able to pick the best fit for your family's needs.

- Kensington mom of one borderline special needs kid, and who's hired a handful of nannies over the years

Hiring a handful of nannies isn't great, PP.

Yep, been on this board a while so knew I would get that.

First nanny - 3.5 yrs with us until active preschoolers were too much for her physically. We (and the kids) see her regularly and sometimes she comes to family holidays, birthday parties, etc...
Second nanny - one year w/ us, left to become a social worker.
Third nanny has been with us for 2.5 years so far.

Also, one interim short term nanny hired to cover an extended absence of first nanny when she needed surgery and was out for 6 weeks.

So all told I've interviewed a lot of nannies, with what I consider very successful results. They've all been great. None have been compensated in excess of $20/hr.

Ha ha!!

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

I just can't imagine any professional thinking that this is a good thing.

Actually, the opposite. His PEP teacher and pediatrician said it is fine. Whatever it takes to get him settled. Don't get me started on this you didn't try hard enough. If you are up with your kid at 1 am and he is not going to bed, then you have a right to tell me I am not being persistent. We tried every book on sleep training, including crying it out and he literally cried till he almost passed out. The other method we tried that works is melatonin but we don't want to rely on it. How do you know we don't interact with our child? My child will not look me in the eye when I talk to him, did not call me mama until he was 3, etc. Unless you have a special needs child, you don't know what it is like.

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

I just can't imagine any professional thinking that this is a good thing.

Actually, the opposite. His PEP teacher and pediatrician said it is fine. Whatever it takes to get him settled. Don't get me started on this you didn't try hard enough. If you are up with your kid at 1 am and he is not going to bed, then you have a right to tell me I am not being persistent. We tried every book on sleep training, including crying it out and he literally cried till he almost passed out. The other method we tried that works is melatonin but we don't want to rely on it. How do you know we don't interact with our child? My child will not look me in the eye when I talk to him, did not call me mama until he was 3, etc. Unless you have a special needs child, you don't know what it is like.

30 minutes of curated screen time for a 4 year old is NBD AT ALL. For a SN 4 year old who has demonstrated speech improvement from the videos? Lots of peds would recommend. Previous PPs don't know what they're talking about.

Our DS will only "practice" talking if he thinks no one can hear him. He is not (thought to be) SNs but is a little bit speech delayed seemingly because of perfectionist tendencies that crop up in many parts of his life. He hates "failing" and will not try at things he might "fail" at. We're working on that. But his speech therapist specifically recommended videos where a character speaks directly to the audience as a good way of stimulating speech practice given his issues. She was 100% correct. His speech has improved leaps and bounces since he started "talking to" the narrator on Blue's Clues. We record him through the monitor to show to the ST and it's literally amazing. He'll just chat away. Repeating the same new word over and over again until he gets it perfectly... Then he'll tell us about the show at bedtime using the new word. Anyway, OT, but anyone who thinks screens can't benefit speech delayed children is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

I just can't imagine any professional thinking that this is a good thing.

Actually, the opposite. His PEP teacher and pediatrician said it is fine. Whatever it takes to get him settled. Don't get me started on this you didn't try hard enough. If you are up with your kid at 1 am and he is not going to bed, then you have a right to tell me I am not being persistent. We tried every book on sleep training, including crying it out and he literally cried till he almost passed out. The other method we tried that works is melatonin but we don't want to rely on it. How do you know we don't interact with our child? My child will not look me in the eye when I talk to him, did not call me mama until he was 3, etc. Unless you have a special needs child, you don't know what it is like.

PP, this is a NP. Don't even engage with these people. I have a special needs 2yo who will start PEP next year. We regularly see about 12 different specialists, plus PT/OT 5 days a week. And we also have an amazing (legal) nanny who loves our kids and takes our 2yo to therapy and then works with him at home using the skill she's learned with him and his therapists. We pay her $20 an hour. And regarding screen time, the other PP can kiss off. She has no idea what she's talking about when it comes to sleep training a child for whom NOTHING else works.

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I think $20-$22 an hour is fair. $30 - wishful thinking from the nannies on this board. For $30 I'd expect someone with a SN background.

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Anonymous wrote:The $30/hr minimum is correct. You require a professional with solid experience with challenging children, not your average sitter. Can you afford this?
The biting is a symptom of something serious.

Like I said, he doesn’t bite at home or PEP., just at this daycare. When he is home with his younger brother, he actually go out of his way to make sure he doesn’t hurt his brother even if his brother hits him. 30 is too much. At most we can pay is 22.

Please let us know what kind of person you're able to find at that rate. And if she stays past 10 weeks.

You seem to be insinuating the problem is with the daycare, not your child. Is this right? Do you know the other families there?

Yes. That is what I am saying because we are not seeing this behavior elsewhere. When we ask the teachers what happened, the answer is always we didn’t see. He is speech delayed so he can’t tell us. He is also getting a formal diagnosis soon so we may be able to start medication which could help.

I would resort to the meds only as a last resort. First change his quality of care. That can make a huge difference.

We are considering meds because of his attention issues and speech delay. It is significantly afftecting his development.

He's doing zero screen time, correct?

OP here. He gets screen time because he actually learns words from the videos he watches. We took away screen time for 6 months and it actually made things worse and he regressed with speech. Our limitation is no screen time in the morning or at dinner. He won't settle down to go to bed if he is not watching a video. We let him watch for 30 minutes and he tells us he wants to go to bed himself versus us fighting him.

I just can't imagine any professional thinking that this is a good thing.

Actually, the opposite. His PEP teacher and pediatrician said it is fine. Whatever it takes to get him settled. Don't get me started on this you didn't try hard enough. If you are up with your kid at 1 am and he is not going to bed, then you have a right to tell me I am not being persistent. We tried every book on sleep training, including crying it out and he literally cried till he almost passed out. The other method we tried that works is melatonin but we don't want to rely on it. How do you know we don't interact with our child? My child will not look me in the eye when I talk to him, did not call me mama until he was 3, etc. Unless you have a special needs child, you don't know what it is like.

30 minutes of curated screen time for a 4 year old is NBD AT ALL. For a SN 4 year old who has demonstrated speech improvement from the videos? Lots of peds would recommend. Previous PPs don't know what they're talking about.

Our DS will only "practice" talking if he thinks no one can hear him. He is not (thought to be) SNs but is a little bit speech delayed seemingly because of perfectionist tendencies that crop up in many parts of his life. He hates "failing" and will not try at things he might "fail" at. We're working on that. But his speech therapist specifically recommended videos where a character speaks directly to the audience as a good way of stimulating speech practice given his issues. She was 100% correct. His speech has improved leaps and bounces since he started "talking to" the narrator on Blue's Clues. We record him through the monitor to show to the ST and it's literally amazing. He'll just chat away. Repeating the same new word over and over again until he gets it perfectly... Then he'll tell us about the show at bedtime using the new word. Anyway, OT, but anyone who thinks screens can't benefit speech delayed children is wrong.

It depends on the alternatives. I can totally imagine situations where a puppet on a screen can be more successful than a human being.

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Anonymous wrote:I think $20-$22 an hour is fair. $30 - wishful thinking from the nannies on this board. For $30 I'd expect someone with a SN background.

OP needs someone with a Special Needs background.

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Anonymous wrote:I think $20-$22 an hour is fair. $30 - wishful thinking from the nannies on this board. For $30 I'd expect someone with a SN background.

OP needs someone with a Special Needs background.

Exactly. I earn $30 for two non-SN children.