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Anonymous
What is the accreditation you're pointing to?
Anonymous
At this time there is no legitimate accreditation for ncs. The NCAA is one woman who requires you to take training courses that she has a financial investment in or owns. It is a joke to anyone that established in the industry. The top ncs Do NOT have NCAA certification because they know it is worthless. There is no independent accreditation or outside oversight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not true. The NCSA only points you to companies that provide classes that pay the NCSA. They are a for profit company not accredited by anyone.

PP is right, at least as a doula you are getting training that is used internationally.


http://ncsainfo.com/requirements/

Your info is faulty.

No, it's not. Just because they say the have "requirements" it doesn't mean those requirements are vetted by anyone but them. It's silly to think that as company that reports to itself is doing anything meaningful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not true. The NCSA only points you to companies that provide classes that pay the NCSA. They are a for profit company not accredited by anyone.

PP is right, at least as a doula you are getting training that is used internationally.


http://ncsainfo.com/requirements/

Your info is faulty.

No, it's not. Just because they say the have "requirements" it doesn't mean those requirements are vetted by anyone but them. It's silly to think that as company that reports to itself is doing anything meaningful.

DP. FYI, 99% of all education is essentially for profit, including our "best" universities. Think about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not true. The NCSA only points you to companies that provide classes that pay the NCSA. They are a for profit company not accredited by anyone.

PP is right, at least as a doula you are getting training that is used internationally.


http://ncsainfo.com/requirements/

Your info is faulty.

No, it's not. Just because they say the have "requirements" it doesn't mean those requirements are vetted by anyone but them. It's silly to think that as company that reports to itself is doing anything meaningful.


You are a bit incoherent. Let's put this together:
I stated that NCSA certifies NCSs and that the requirements include educational components, a written test and 1800 hours of hands on experience.

You claimed that that was "not true" and that they only offer classes.

I posted a link to their website listing their requirements, exactly as I had previously described them.

You no claim those aren't real requirements because they are only required by the NCSA and not by...whom? Are you saying that there should be a third-party independent board? Because that is what the NCSA tries to be. They provide accreditation to classes and certification to students who meet their educational and practical requirements.

If you want to complain that their standards should be more rigorous or that they should include more formal training etc. then that might be a valid complaint, but saying that they aren't a "real" organization simply because they are making money just puts them in the same camp as literally all formal education. It kind of sounds like you don't understand how any of this works.
Anonymous
Yes, there should be an independent board. These boards exist and are the same ones that accredit and certify colleges, universities etc.

So no, they are not in the same category as formal education. Formal education bodies report to accreditation and certification agencies. A company can't just anoint themselves as an authority on a subject.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, there should be an independent board. These boards exist and are the same ones that accredit and certify colleges, universities etc.

So no, they are not in the same category as formal education. Formal education bodies report to accreditation and certification agencies. A company can't just anoint themselves as an authority on a subject.



"These boards exist"--where? Where is the board that exists other than this one to accredit this industry? I would love to have an alternative. And how did those boards come into existence? Guess what? Some group of people just anointed themselves the boss of that. It is in fact precisely how it works. I am not pro-NCSA, but you are being absurd. They are the best we have at this specific task because they are the only group that accredits for this.
Anonymous
Google accreditation boards and you will see that yes these boards exist. And no they didn't just decide they were accrediting; they went through years long processes and ongoing third party evaluation. Like the American Heart Association or the Red Cross; they are the only accepted CPR Certs.

You're right that there's not one specifically for nannies but those organizations have gone through formal processes to accredit.

I agree with you that it's the best option we have but it's important that nannies know what they are getting and that there's a difference between saying your an accreditation board and actually being one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not true. The NCSA only points you to companies that provide classes that pay the NCSA. They are a for profit company not accredited by anyone.

PP is right, at least as a doula you are getting training that is used internationally.


http://ncsainfo.com/requirements/

Your info is faulty.

No, it's not. Just because they say the have "requirements" it doesn't mean those requirements are vetted by anyone but them. It's silly to think that as company that reports to itself is doing anything meaningful.

DP. FYI, 99% of all education is essentially for profit, including our "best" universities. Think about it.


That's beside the point.
Major universities are held to nationwide standards and must demonstrate that their curriculum meets said standards. They are vetted by outside sources. Regardless of if they make money (which they don't but that's obviously over your head) the education one receives from them is not just arbitrary, there are guidelines and regulations. This is not the case with whatever BS organizations DCUM nannies are always talking about. These are for-profit companies making up classes and certificates which essentially mean nothing. The fact that people pay for them speaks more to their lack of intelligence than the legitimacy of the classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how to find out about training or certification to become a night nanny or newborn nanny in Maryland or DC?


Look up Doula training.

Most doulas act more as a labor coach, but there are postpartum doulas. And there is training available for that.

Personally, I have never met a doula, so I don't fully understand the difference between a postpartum doula and a newborn nanny, though I suspect the doula looks after mom as well as new baby.


We used postpartum doulas (certified through CAPPA) for nights, and they were seriously awesome. They specialize in newborns and ours were incredibly knowledgable - more so than the pediatrician in some cases. They generally also have specific training in supporting breastfeeding (one we used was a certified lactation consultant), as well as maternal postpartum health. Ours would take care of my daughter, work on developing good sleep habits, and answer our questions as needed; when our daughter slept well they'd also do laundry, cook breakfast and snacks to stock the fridge. They were awesome and a lifesaver and we were so sad when we "aged out" of their care when my daughter was four months old.
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