What is considered "on time" and "late"?

[Anonymous]

Fire her and hire an illegal before Trump deport them all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1 min after is late. She should arrive 1-2 min early

Are you prepared to pay for her to be one to two minutes early? This is 20-30 minutes a month. Also, you need to be home one to two minutes early so she can leave at her contracted quitting time. Works both ways.

That works for me! I'm always home a few minutes early.

[Anonymous]

I always arrive early. I was taught in college always give extra time in case of traffic jam or construction and being a book to read. I always arrive early to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1 min after is late. She should arrive 1-2 min early

Are you prepared to pay for her to be one to two minutes early? This is 20-30 minutes a month. Also, you need to be home one to two minutes early so she can leave at her contracted quitting time. Works both ways.

No, because she gets paid at the start time of 8am. She needs to be ready to start at 8am, if she needs 5 minutes or 30 seconds that is on her, but at 8am she should be ready to assume her duties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1 min after is late. She should arrive 1-2 min early

Are you prepared to pay for her to be one to two minutes early? This is 20-30 minutes a month. Also, you need to be home one to two minutes early so she can leave at her contracted quitting time. Works both ways.

No, because she gets paid at the start time of 8am. She needs to be ready to start at 8am, if she needs 5 minutes or 30 seconds that is on her, but at 8am she should be ready to assume her duties.

And do you ensure that your nanny is walking out of your house every day at exactly her contracted end time? I'm 5-10 minutes early each day, with employers who stroll in 5 minutes late, then want to change and talk about the day for another 10 on a daily basis. It irritates the hell out of me, so I understand your sentiment, I just think it needs to go both ways. If you expect a hard start time, make sure the end time is also strictly observed. If you're a parent can't manage to get home in time to release your nanny before you stop paying her, you don't get to bitch about her being 3 minutes late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1 min after is late. She should arrive 1-2 min early

Are you prepared to pay for her to be one to two minutes early? This is 20-30 minutes a month. Also, you need to be home one to two minutes early so she can leave at her contracted quitting time. Works both ways.

No, because she gets paid at the start time of 8am. She needs to be ready to start at 8am, if she needs 5 minutes or 30 seconds that is on her, but at 8am she should be ready to assume her duties.

And do you ensure that your nanny is walking out of your house every day at exactly her contracted end time? I'm 5-10 minutes early each day, with employers who stroll in 5 minutes late, then want to change and talk about the day for another 10 on a daily basis. It irritates the hell out of me, so I understand your sentiment, I just think it needs to go both ways. If you expect a hard start time, make sure the end time is also strictly observed. If you're a parent can't manage to get home in time to release your nanny before you stop paying her, you don't get to bitch about her being 3 minutes late.

The OP said she is on time in the evenings. Yes, she should be letting the nanny walk out the door at the end of the paid time. If she is keeping her to catch up on the day, the OP needs to get home earlier, just like the nanny needs to be there ready to work at the start time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. So let's say nanny's work day is 8 - 6 p.m. Based on responses so far, it sounds like I can reasonably expect nanny to be there from say 7:55 to 6:05 if she needs 5 minutes at both ends to get ready to work/leave? I ask because our nanny spends about 5 minutes in the bathroom at the start and end of work day to use the toilet and change into her work clothes. I don't begrudge her use of the toilet, but changing seems a waste of her work time and she ends up starting work about 10 minutes after the start time due to a combination of lateness and her prep time.

FYI I NEVER arrive home late causing her to leave late. This is not a situation where DH and I keep her late sometimes so she feels it's okay for her to arrive late sometimes.

I think the issue is that our nanny plans to arrive on time, but little things happen every day that cause her to arrive a few minutes late. I would like to tell our nanny that she needs to 1) give herself a cushion of 10 minutes so that she is arriving early to on time, not on time to late as she has been and 2) be ready to dig into work on the hour, sharp, meaning she needs to arrive a few minutes in advance to do whatever prep she feels is necessary. Sound reasonable?

This is work so she really needs to be punctual. She needs to be there no later than 8 am (not 8:01) to not be late and clocking out at 6 (not 6:01). If she needs to use the toilet then she needs to arrive earlier.

[Anonymous]

This is a crazy thread. I'm so grateful I work for professional yet laid back nice people that don't worry of small things and play games. Most people that would come to a forum to take time to complain about less than 5 minutes late start time daily would look for something to complain about regardless.

The changing clothes thing is strange. I am not sure what sort of home you have op or kids but your nanny is there with them on her own all day and manages to use the bathroom and do what she needs to do when you aren't there so why do you have to be there waiting for her to change clothes? Just say bye, brief her and leave. She can go to the bathroom after you're gone. I have a toddler that goes in playpen when I need to attend to his older brother or use the bathroom myself so I'm not understanding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a crazy thread. I'm so grateful I work for professional yet laid back nice people that don't worry of small things and play games. Most people that would come to a forum to take time to complain about less than 5 minutes late start time daily would look for something to complain about regardless.

The changing clothes thing is strange. I am not sure what sort of home you have op or kids but your nanny is there with them on her own all day and manages to use the bathroom and do what she needs to do when you aren't there so why do you have to be there waiting for her to change clothes? Just say bye, brief her and leave. She can go to the bathroom after you're gone. I have a toddler that goes in playpen when I need to attend to his older brother or use the bathroom myself so I'm not understanding

Absolutely agree.

I have no problem admitting that I'm regularly 5 minutes late most days and there have been a handful of times where I've been 20+ minutes late which I definitely felt bad, guilty and apologized for.
If my employers of 2 years ever got angry over 5 minutes though, which I really doubt, I'd probably laugh. We have a very symbiotic relationship where they know they can count on me to do extra things lik run errands, go grocery shopping, stay late, etc and I know I'll alwats be paid the same whether I'm late or not and they regularly tell me how much they appreciate me so I find this thread so odd to be nitpicking over 5 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a crazy thread. I'm so grateful I work for professional yet laid back nice people that don't worry of small things and play games. Most people that would come to a forum to take time to complain about less than 5 minutes late start time daily would look for something to complain about regardless.

The changing clothes thing is strange. I am not sure what sort of home you have op or kids but your nanny is there with them on her own all day and manages to use the bathroom and do what she needs to do when you aren't there so why do you have to be there waiting for her to change clothes? Just say bye, brief her and leave. She can go to the bathroom after you're gone. I have a toddler that goes in playpen when I need to attend to his older brother or use the bathroom myself so I'm not understanding

Absolutely agree.

I have no problem admitting that I'm regularly 5 minutes late most days and there have been a handful of times where I've been 20+ minutes late which I definitely felt bad, guilty and apologized for.
If my employers of 2 years ever got angry over 5 minutes though, which I really doubt, I'd probably laugh. We have a very symbiotic relationship where they know they can count on me to do extra things lik run errands, go grocery shopping, stay late, etc and I know I'll alwats be paid the same whether I'm late or not and they regularly tell me how much they appreciate me so I find this thread so odd to be nitpicking over 5 minutes.

How unprofessional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a crazy thread. I'm so grateful I work for professional yet laid back nice people that don't worry of small things and play games. Most people that would come to a forum to take time to complain about less than 5 minutes late start time daily would look for something to complain about regardless.

The changing clothes thing is strange. I am not sure what sort of home you have op or kids but your nanny is there with them on her own all day and manages to use the bathroom and do what she needs to do when you aren't there so why do you have to be there waiting for her to change clothes? Just say bye, brief her and leave. She can go to the bathroom after you're gone. I have a toddler that goes in playpen when I need to attend to his older brother or use the bathroom myself so I'm not understanding

Absolutely agree.

I have no problem admitting that I'm regularly 5 minutes late most days and there have been a handful of times where I've been 20+ minutes late which I definitely felt bad, guilty and apologized for.
If my employers of 2 years ever got angry over 5 minutes though, which I really doubt, I'd probably laugh. We have a very symbiotic relationship where they know they can count on me to do extra things lik run errands, go grocery shopping, stay late, etc and I know I'll alwats be paid the same whether I'm late or not and they regularly tell me how much they appreciate me so I find this thread so odd to be nitpicking over 5 minutes.

How unprofessional.

It works and I'm still being paid so

[Anonymous]

I'm always early so late is late

[Anonymous]

OP what's really going on here? Obviously your nanny should arrive as close to her start time as possible, and I can see her walking in 3-5 minutes late on a daily basis could be irritating, but I wonder what the real issue is here.

Why are you watching the clock so closely that 3 minutes upsets you? Have you scheduled your morning so tightly that 3 minutes makes a difference? Are you unhappy with the rate you're paying her and trying to squeeze out every minute of work from her? Are you unhappy with her performance? We're you spoiled by your former nanny who actually arrived early, and that's the time you would prefer your nanny to arrive?

Once you figure out what your real issue is, you might have better luck in addressing it with her. Because for someone who isn't naturally punctual, as your nanny seems struggle with this, 3 minutes isn't going to seem like a big deal no matter how many times you point it out. She needs to understand why and what your real issue is otherwise you just seem like a miserable bitch looking for a reason to complain. That's not a good way to start out your new relationship.

[Anonymous]

5 minute grace period.

but honestly. good nannies arrive 5-10 minutes early and either sit in their car or the nearby coffee shop. especially if their commute can be crazy, clogged routes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a crazy thread. I'm so grateful I work for professional yet laid back nice people that don't worry of small things and play games. Most people that would come to a forum to take time to complain about less than 5 minutes late start time daily would look for something to complain about regardless.

The changing clothes thing is strange. I am not sure what sort of home you have op or kids but your nanny is there with them on her own all day and manages to use the bathroom and do what she needs to do when you aren't there so why do you have to be there waiting for her to change clothes? Just say bye, brief her and leave. She can go to the bathroom after you're gone. I have a toddler that goes in playpen when I need to attend to his older brother or use the bathroom myself so I'm not understanding

Absolutely agree.

I have no problem admitting that I'm regularly 5 minutes late most days and there have been a handful of times where I've been 20+ minutes late which I definitely felt bad, guilty and apologized for.
If my employers of 2 years ever got angry over 5 minutes though, which I really doubt, I'd probably laugh. We have a very symbiotic relationship where they know they can count on me to do extra things lik run errands, go grocery shopping, stay late, etc and I know I'll alwats be paid the same whether I'm late or not and they regularly tell me how much they appreciate me so I find this thread so odd to be nitpicking over 5 minutes.

How unprofessional.

It works and I'm still being paid so

Same here. The whole purpose of a nanny is (1) quality childcare, and (2) allows the mom and dad to do their job. If their white collar, or client-driven job has them leaving at slightly different times due to projects, team meetings, etc. then there has to be flexibility on the back end. 5:30 plus or minute 15 minutes is not a big deal. It's not like they work at McDonalds and clock out at 5pm no matter what is going on.