If you have 2+ young kids and no nanny-mobile...

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

I would say it was no problem to keep them installed. Then when I needed the backseat I would take them out anyway. Sorry to burst youtr bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

I would say it was no problem to keep them installed. Then when I needed the backseat I would take them out anyway. Sorry to burst youtr bubble.

Yeah, how would you know if the car seats were uninstalled and then reinstalled?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

I would say it was no problem to keep them installed. Then when I needed the backseat I would take them out anyway. Sorry to burst youtr bubble.

NP here. You're risking the children's lives because it's likely you don't know how to correctly install them.

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

I would say it was no problem to keep them installed. Then when I needed the backseat I would take them out anyway. Sorry to burst youtr bubble.

NP here. You're risking the children's lives because it's likely you don't know how to correctly install them.

Not PP, but how the hell do you know what he/she is capable of? Installing car seats, despite what you might be reading on the internet, is not rocket science. Once you learn how to do it correctly (for your brand), it's not super challenging to do again.
The intelligence and capability level of DCUM posters is frightening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

I would say it was no problem to keep them installed. Then when I needed the backseat I would take them out anyway. Sorry to burst youtr bubble.

NP here. You're risking the children's lives because it's likely you don't know how to correctly install them.

Not PP, but how the hell do you know what he/she is capable of? Installing car seats, despite what you might be reading on the internet, is not rocket science. Once you learn how to do it correctly (for your brand), it's not super challenging to do again.
The intelligence and capability level of DCUM posters is frightening.

3 out of 4 seats are installed incorrectly and that is a fact. Britax states it, it says it here http://www.babycenter.com/0_installing-a-car-seat_9458.bc

You know why? Because people think it is not rocket science and *think* they did it correctly, when, in fact, they did not.

Installing carseats is literally rocket science. Because rocket science is all about Physics and installing carseats is all about physics.

People get licenses to be able to inspect carseat installations correctly and have careers in this field. Governments often provide this service. In our area, you go to the police department to get it inspected for correct installation and in the next county over, you go to the fire station to get your carseat installation inspected. Private "car seat installer/inspectors" charge hundreds of dollars per hour.

I have multiple engineering degrees from prestigious universities. All I know is I could be doing it wrong and I take it to the professionals who study this day after day. They taught me a few things and adjusted a few angles. Some things are supposed to be tight as possible, some things are supposed to be loose to have "give" if there is an accident.

Looking at your presumptive attitude, I'm sure you are one of the 3 out of 4 who did it wrong.

This is why parents always should be the ones to install the carseat. A certain angle out of whack can make a big differences. Nannies cannot assume the risk and put it in themselves.

Once it is in, leave it in. If it must come out, parents either reinstall or inspect the new installation.

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Anonymous wrote:We made it a condition of hiring. Stated clearly that a signigicant responsibility of the job was transporting the kids to/from preschool, playdates, etc... And that the ideal candidate would have safe, reliable transportation, a pristine driving record, comprehensive insurance and be willing and able to keep the carseats we provide in her car.

We reimburse all approved mileage at IRS rates (which covers wear and tear etc...) and we also pay for an annual full detailing.

We had lots of applicants for whom these all seemed like pretty standard expectations.

IRS wear and tear mea,s tires, miles put on car not installing permanent car seats or messy kids.

Right. IRS level reimbursement, we provide and install the carseats (which are to remain in the car) and pay for detailing.

There is no problem here. Pick a fight elsewhere.

This would be a major problem for me. I have no problem using my car if a family is unable to provide me one (and honestly I feel more comfortable with the arrangement) but you had better believe that I will be taking the carseats out any time I need to. Unless you plan on taking over my car payments, it is still my vehicle to use as I see fit when I am not on duty; this includes having passengers and cargo in the backseat.

Fine. See my beginning... "condition of hiring". We made our expectations/wishes clear in the ad, followed that up in confirming this was ok w/ all final candidates, and the nanny we hired is totally fine with it. You simply would have not responded to my ad or would have made your conditions clear and we would have hired someone else.

It's all in the communication. All of this is negotiable, and all of this (accepting or declining) is perfectly fine as long as everyone is clear and upfront about their expectations. None of this was an issue with the candidates, finalists, or employee we hired in this position. And I had no lack of great candidates to choose from.

I would say it was no problem to keep them installed. Then when I needed the backseat I would take them out anyway. Sorry to burst youtr bubble.

NP here. You're risking the children's lives because it's likely you don't know how to correctly install them.

Not PP, but how the hell do you know what he/she is capable of? Installing car seats, despite what you might be reading on the internet, is not rocket science. Once you learn how to do it correctly (for your brand), it's not super challenging to do again.
The intelligence and capability level of DCUM posters is frightening.

3 out of 4 seats are installed incorrectly and that is a fact. Britax states it, it says it here http://www.babycenter.com/0_installing-a-car-seat_9458.bc

You know why? Because people think it is not rocket science and *think* they did it correctly, when, in fact, they did not.

Installing carseats is literally rocket science. Because rocket science is all about Physics and installing carseats is all about physics.

People get licenses to be able to inspect carseat installations correctly and have careers in this field. Governments often provide this service. In our area, you go to the police department to get it inspected for correct installation and in the next county over, you go to the fire station to get your carseat installation inspected. Private "car seat installer/inspectors" charge hundreds of dollars per hour.

I have multiple engineering degrees from prestigious universities. All I know is I could be doing it wrong and I take it to the professionals who study this day after day. They taught me a few things and adjusted a few angles. Some things are supposed to be tight as possible, some things are supposed to be loose to have "give" if there is an accident.

Looking at your presumptive attitude, I'm sure you are one of the 3 out of 4 who did it wrong.

This is why parents always should be the ones to install the carseat. A certain angle out of whack can make a big differences. Nannies cannot assume the risk and put it in themselves.

Once it is in, leave it in. If it must come out, parents either reinstall or inspect the new installation.

Oh good grief, I'm a nanny who is way better versed at choosing and installing carseats than my employers. I'm the one who makes sure the seats are installed correctly in all of the vehicles. FWIW- police stations and fire departments do not always have certified CPST's on staff. The Facebook Group Car Seats For the Littles is honestly one of the best resources out there for technical information and questions regarding your install. A Certified CPST should never be installing a seat for you in the first place, they should be teaching you how to install so that you can do it yourself.

Installing car seats correctly is really not that hard if you are able to retain information. Some are defintely easier than others, but you should always read through the manual to familiarize yourself with the nuances of your particular seat.

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I refuse anyone to tell me what I can do with my property.
If you want car seats permanently installed then you had better buy a vehicle to install it in. Some of us nannies have families and our vehicle is also our family's vehicle after work or on weekend, so while on a Monday morning I would show up for work with car seats installed it will be removed if I need my back seats. The little bit of money you give me for IRS mileage is a reimbursement NOT a car payment.
Take my case for example..My husband researched a lot of vehicles and then purchased a BMW x3 for me and my family. I can use it for work, but his car payment on it is $656 and insurance of $160.
That means he spends over $800 for me and his children to be as safe as possible on the road.
While I don't mind using my vehicle for my job, I'll be damned if I'll let anyone tell me what to do with it for a measly extra $20 a week.
Why don't you put your kids safety 1st and sacrifice and buy a nanny vehicle so you know the maintenance of the vehicle, that the insurance is up to date and the car seats once installed correctly will never be removed and re-installed incorrectly.
You can't tell me my husband cares more for my safety a grown ass woman than you do for your little ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I refuse anyone to tell me what I can do with my property.
If you want car seats permanently installed then you had better buy a vehicle to install it in. Some of us nannies have families and our vehicle is also our family's vehicle after work or on weekend, so while on a Monday morning I would show up for work with car seats installed it will be removed if I need my back seats. The little bit of money you give me for IRS mileage is a reimbursement NOT a car payment.
Take my case for example..My husband researched a lot of vehicles and then purchased a BMW x3 for me and my family. I can use it for work, but his car payment on it is $656 and insurance of $160.
That means he spends over $800 for me and his children to be as safe as possible on the road.
While I don't mind using my vehicle for my job, I'll be damned if I'll let anyone tell me what to do with it for a measly extra $20 a week.
Why don't you put your kids safety 1st and sacrifice and buy a nanny vehicle so you know the maintenance of the vehicle, that the insurance is up to date and the car seats once installed correctly will never be removed and re-installed incorrectly.
You can't tell me my husband cares more for my safety a grown ass woman than you do for your little ones

All of this is totally fine. It also means you would never be a fit for employment with me, carseats being many slots behind your overall attitude in reasons why we would never get along.

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It wouldn't sit well with me either PP.

[Anonymous]

I don't take jobs where driving is a requirement period. I do sometimes drive my charge (when I have only one) because I have a safe car seat installed for my own child. I drive my nieces on the weekends in booster seats. I have a small car and won't load it up with car seats. Installing/uninstalling is a pain I'd rather not deal with. I also don't care to drive other ppl's kids. I just don't apply for jobs like this, it's just wasting everyone's time.

[Anonymous]

Well I did get the job with someone like you, where they stipulated that I must have car seats installed. The first two weeks was rocky. The mb got mad the first time I told her I had removed the car seats. Then the second week the db came to relieve me early and decided to tell me he's number one concern about his children is car seats and car accidents. So I was nice about it, I told him I need my vehicle for my family, but I will make sure that the car seats are installed properly and they can check it any time they want. That was the best I can do. They have more money than I do, I cannot afford to spend $800 for the convenience of my bosses. I told my husband it was either I would leave the job or I would have driven my son old vehicle and let him have my vehicle during the week. At least my son would have driven himself and my daughter in the safer vehicle to get to and from school and I would not feel resentful about the situation.
What would they do fire me because I'm no longer driving the better vehicle for their children?
I would like to ask mb's ..how would they like their jobs to put boxes of files in their back seats and trunk and have their bosses tell them it cannot be romoved for over 2 or 3 years. What would they do with their infants and toddlers car seats for outings after work or weekends?
It's the same for us, we need space for weekends outings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well I did get the job with someone like you, where they stipulated that I must have car seats installed. The first two weeks was rocky. The mb got mad the first time I told her I had removed the car seats. Then the second week the db came to relieve me early and decided to tell me he's number one concern about his children is car seats and car accidents. So I was nice about it, I told him I need my vehicle for my family, but I will make sure that the car seats are installed properly and they can check it any time they want. That was the best I can do. They have more money than I do, I cannot afford to spend $800 for the convenience of my bosses. I told my husband it was either I would leave the job or I would have driven my son old vehicle and let him have my vehicle during the week. At least my son would have driven himself and my daughter in the safer vehicle to get to and from school and I would not feel resentful about the situation.
What would they do fire me because I'm no longer driving the better vehicle for their children?
I would like to ask mb's ..how would they like their jobs to put boxes of files in their back seats and trunk and have their bosses tell them it cannot be romoved for over 2 or 3 years. What would they do with their infants and toddlers car seats for outings after work or weekends?
It's the same for us, we need space for weekends outings.

Fine. Then you don't take a job for which this is a requirement. You only take jobs where driving isn't required, or where a car is provided. And the employer who does not want carseats removed needs to employ someone who will agree to that, or provide a vehicle for the nanny's use.

Just because you don't like the terms of a job, or the wishes of an employee, doesn't mean either party is wrong. It just means it isn't a good fit.

Get over it and move on. Find a different job or find a different nanny (or solution.)