Nanny vaccinations

[Anonymous]

I require tdap but not flu. We don't do a health insurance contribution so we also pay for it.

[Anonymous]

We require Dtap, flu and TB test.

These are non negotiable and any nanny who would object would not be a fit with our family.

I have no time or patience for crazy anti vaxxers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccines are a very contested issue. 61 studies with hundreds of thousands of patients found the flu vaccine did not have any effect on transmissions, ER visits, or hospitalization, contrary to CDCs claims otherwise. Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot. Teachers are not required either. My kids don't get the vaccine and I would not require my nanny to either. I am also a healthcare professional. There are others that we do get, however because they are much safer.

That is not true. The majority of hospitals provide free mandatory flu shots to their employees. My sister works at a hospital in Indiana and has to get one, my brother works at a hospital in Michigan and has to get one, and I volunteer at a hospital in Ohio and I am required to get one. Unless these are the only three hospitals in the entire country that require this, then you statement is not even close to being true. Also, my sister is a resident fresh out of med school and she is of the opinion that anyone who does not get the flu shot is an idiot.

It is really frustrating to have conversations like this with people who are not entirely familiar with the issue. Not saying everyone has to be into every topic but it is helpful to ask questions when you don't know all of the answers. For example-
question: where did you learn that only a few places in the country have mandatory vaccinations?"
Answer: "the CDC actually provides this information on their website. I have included a link in case you wanted to check it out."
http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/StateVaccApp/statevaccsApp/AdministrationbyPatientType.asp?PatientTypetmp=Hospital%20Employees

It's really frustrating when people make misleading statements. Did you read the link you posted? It doesn't say that "Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot." The link is about state laws requiring hospitals to have mandatory vaccinations for their employees. It says nothing about how many hospitals actually make it mandatory. I guarantee that there are MANY more than 3 hospitals in the country that make it mandatory. They just aren't required to by state law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccines are a very contested issue. 61 studies with hundreds of thousands of patients found the flu vaccine did not have any effect on transmissions, ER visits, or hospitalization, contrary to CDCs claims otherwise. Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot. Teachers are not required either. My kids don't get the vaccine and I would not require my nanny to either. I am also a healthcare professional. There are others that we do get, however because they are much safer.

That is not true. The majority of hospitals provide free mandatory flu shots to their employees. My sister works at a hospital in Indiana and has to get one, my brother works at a hospital in Michigan and has to get one, and I volunteer at a hospital in Ohio and I am required to get one. Unless these are the only three hospitals in the entire country that require this, then you statement is not even close to being true. Also, my sister is a resident fresh out of med school and she is of the opinion that anyone who does not get the flu shot is an idiot.

It is really frustrating to have conversations like this with people who are not entirely familiar with the issue. Not saying everyone has to be into every topic but it is helpful to ask questions when you don't know all of the answers. For example-
question: where did you learn that only a few places in the country have mandatory vaccinations?"
Answer: "the CDC actually provides this information on their website. I have included a link in case you wanted to check it out."
http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/StateVaccApp/statevaccsApp/AdministrationbyPatientType.asp?PatientTypetmp=Hospital%20Employees

It's really frustrating when people make misleading statements. Did you read the link you posted? It doesn't say that "Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot." The link is about state laws requiring hospitals to have mandatory vaccinations for their employees. It says nothing about how many hospitals actually make it mandatory. I guarantee that there are MANY more than 3 hospitals in the country that make it mandatory. They just aren't required to by state law.

Nope, I understood my information just fine. You misunderstood or intentionally misstated the point for dramatic effect. I could share information on the hospitals across the country where mandatory vaccine policies have been struck down or the vaccine settlement database showing that flu shots alone account for more then half of the US government vaccine settlements. But, that would take us toward the realm of conversation whereas you seem determined to have an argument. I don't have time for you, aggressive poster. Signing off.

[Anonymous]

I work for pediatricians the only one they wanted me to have was pertussis (whooping cough) because it can be fatal to infants/young children. I got the flu, pneumonia, and made sure all my others were up to date since some require boosters. I offer to show proof of my vaccines and have them printed out and bring them with me. I don't think it hurts to ask nanny for proof of vaccines. You could also ask candidates to contact their doctor to see if they need any boosters and if they can recommend vaccines she would need.

There are people who are against vaccinations but if that is one of the requirements of the job and something that is truly important to you don't back down there are plenty of nannies that will get vaccines. You could offer to cover the costs of the ones you want your nanny to have. Sometimes cost is an issue with nannies plus it looks great if you're willing to pay for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccines are a very contested issue. 61 studies with hundreds of thousands of patients found the flu vaccine did not have any effect on transmissions, ER visits, or hospitalization, contrary to CDCs claims otherwise. Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot. Teachers are not required either. My kids don't get the vaccine and I would not require my nanny to either. I am also a healthcare professional. There are others that we do get, however because they are much safer.

That is not true. The majority of hospitals provide free mandatory flu shots to their employees. My sister works at a hospital in Indiana and has to get one, my brother works at a hospital in Michigan and has to get one, and I volunteer at a hospital in Ohio and I am required to get one. Unless these are the only three hospitals in the entire country that require this, then you statement is not even close to being true. Also, my sister is a resident fresh out of med school and she is of the opinion that anyone who does not get the flu shot is an idiot.

It is really frustrating to have conversations like this with people who are not entirely familiar with the issue. Not saying everyone has to be into every topic but it is helpful to ask questions when you don't know all of the answers. For example-
question: where did you learn that only a few places in the country have mandatory vaccinations?"
Answer: "the CDC actually provides this information on their website. I have included a link in case you wanted to check it out."
http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/StateVaccApp/statevaccsApp/AdministrationbyPatientType.asp?PatientTypetmp=Hospital%20Employees

It's really frustrating when people make misleading statements. Did you read the link you posted? It doesn't say that "Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot." The link is about state laws requiring hospitals to have mandatory vaccinations for their employees. It says nothing about how many hospitals actually make it mandatory. I guarantee that there are MANY more than 3 hospitals in the country that make it mandatory. They just aren't required to by state law.

Nope, I understood my information just fine. You misunderstood or intentionally misstated the point for dramatic effect. I could share information on the hospitals across the country where mandatory vaccine policies have been struck down or the vaccine settlement database showing that flu shots alone account for more then half of the US government vaccine settlements. But, that would take us toward the realm of conversation whereas you seem determined to have an argument. I don't have time for you, aggressive poster. Signing off.

No, no. YOU share the names of hospitals across the country where mandatory vaccine policies have been struck down, etc. Burden of proof is on the poster who made the outrageous assertion.

New poster to this thread, BTW.

[Anonymous]

My NF did not require any. They more in the natural/organic camp though so not sure if that is helpful.

[Anonymous]

Flu and tdap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccines are a very contested issue. 61 studies with hundreds of thousands of patients found the flu vaccine did not have any effect on transmissions, ER visits, or hospitalization, contrary to CDCs claims otherwise. Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot. Teachers are not required either. My kids don't get the vaccine and I would not require my nanny to either. I am also a healthcare professional. There are others that we do get, however because they are much safer.

That is not true. The majority of hospitals provide free mandatory flu shots to their employees. My sister works at a hospital in Indiana and has to get one, my brother works at a hospital in Michigan and has to get one, and I volunteer at a hospital in Ohio and I am required to get one. Unless these are the only three hospitals in the entire country that require this, then you statement is not even close to being true. Also, my sister is a resident fresh out of med school and she is of the opinion that anyone who does not get the flu shot is an idiot.

It is really frustrating to have conversations like this with people who are not entirely familiar with the issue. Not saying everyone has to be into every topic but it is helpful to ask questions when you don't know all of the answers. For example-
question: where did you learn that only a few places in the country have mandatory vaccinations?"
Answer: "the CDC actually provides this information on their website. I have included a link in case you wanted to check it out."
http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/StateVaccApp/statevaccsApp/AdministrationbyPatientType.asp?PatientTypetmp=Hospital%20Employees

It's really frustrating when people make misleading statements. Did you read the link you posted? It doesn't say that "Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot." The link is about state laws requiring hospitals to have mandatory vaccinations for their employees. It says nothing about how many hospitals actually make it mandatory. I guarantee that there are MANY more than 3 hospitals in the country that make it mandatory. They just aren't required to by state law.

Isn't state and federal law supposed to reflect public policy or public health considerations? I would think a hospital could have other motives being a profit oriented enterprise whereas the government is focused on what is good for the health of the entire population. Of course hospitals are invested in general welfare, I just think they also have other motives that the government may not in addition to that. Just my .02.

[Anonymous]

I'm a nanny and have never been required to have a vaccination. I voluntarily got the tdap two years ago (and was really miserable for a few days after, got all the side effects) but I will not get the flu shot. Every year I've gotten it, I've been horribly sick ALL winter. The years I don't get it, I get a cold or two and that's it. It's happened enough I'm comfortable with my decision not to get vaccinated against the flu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccines are a very contested issue. 61 studies with hundreds of thousands of patients found the flu vaccine did not have any effect on transmissions, ER visits, or hospitalization, contrary to CDCs claims otherwise. Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot. Teachers are not required either. My kids don't get the vaccine and I would not require my nanny to either. I am also a healthcare professional. There are others that we do get, however because they are much safer.

That is not true. The majority of hospitals provide free mandatory flu shots to their employees. My sister works at a hospital in Indiana and has to get one, my brother works at a hospital in Michigan and has to get one, and I volunteer at a hospital in Ohio and I am required to get one. Unless these are the only three hospitals in the entire country that require this, then you statement is not even close to being true. Also, my sister is a resident fresh out of med school and she is of the opinion that anyone who does not get the flu shot is an idiot.

It is really frustrating to have conversations like this with people who are not entirely familiar with the issue. Not saying everyone has to be into every topic but it is helpful to ask questions when you don't know all of the answers. For example-
question: where did you learn that only a few places in the country have mandatory vaccinations?"
Answer: "the CDC actually provides this information on their website. I have included a link in case you wanted to check it out."
http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/StateVaccApp/statevaccsApp/AdministrationbyPatientType.asp?PatientTypetmp=Hospital%20Employees

It's really frustrating when people make misleading statements. Did you read the link you posted? It doesn't say that "Only two or three places in the entire country require hospital staff to get the flu shot." The link is about state laws requiring hospitals to have mandatory vaccinations for their employees. It says nothing about how many hospitals actually make it mandatory. I guarantee that there are MANY more than 3 hospitals in the country that make it mandatory. They just aren't required to by state law.

Isn't state and federal law supposed to reflect public policy or public health considerations? I would think a hospital could have other motives being a profit oriented enterprise whereas the government is focused on what is good for the health of the entire population. Of course hospitals are invested in general welfare, I just think they also have other motives that the government may not in addition to that. Just my .02.

That doesn't make any sense. What possibly could a hospitals motivation be aside from general welfare? They don't profit from giving their employees free flu shots.

[Anonymous]

How often do you need to get the tdap? Is it yearly like the flu shot ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How often do you need to get the tdap? Is it yearly like the flu shot ?

No, it's good for 10 years.

[Anonymous]

Any employer who requires it needs to pay for it.

[Anonymous]

I don't pay for vaccinations. They are minimal requirements for the job, like CPR certification. If a nanny doesn't have the required vaccinations, don't apply for the job.

I have never interviewed a candidate who didn't already have her vaccinations and certifications in line before the interview. That's one of the measures of a professional.