DB shortchanged me AGAIN!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You absolutely did the right thing, OP. Screw telling them why you quit - the DB would only deny shortchanging you or say it was a mistake and you were being over-sensitive. And of course, MB would have to agree with her ass of a husband. You can not prove you were shortchanged since you did not count the money right in front of them but, like any polite person, you trusted them and counted the cash when you were at home. I'd have done the exact same thing.

Besides, it is not your job to instruct and educate the parents. You did you job and you were cheated. I wish you the very best in finding a new job!

The only person she is screwing, by not telling them why she quit, is the next unfortunate sitter. Next time you find yourself dealing with clueless parents, you can thank their last sitter who never spoke up. You say its not your job to educate them, but if you don't, who will? Idiots, all of you.

Seriously, we are "idiots" for not telling our former employers that they were cheating us - but the cheating employers have no responsibility here?! LOL

Does an adult really need to be told to pay a person what they are owed? Didn't you all get that "education" in grammar school?

No one said that the DB shouldn't have shortchanged you, but there's no benefit to simply quitting. If you don't provide them with a reason then there's no chance that they'll fix the error, little chance that they'll avoid the same mistake with the next innocent nanny, and no way you'll get a reference from them in the future.

A better way would be to send an email to both MB and DB and say "yesterday when I got home, I realized that DB paid me $108. I had been asked to start at 9, and arrived at work on time time. I stayed until 4. At $16 an hour, I should have been paid $112. Please let me know how you'd like to address this."

Then the ball's in their court. They can say "We're so sorry, we'll have the extra $4 next time." or "We're putting that in the mail" and then you can decide whether you still want to quit (in which case give notice). Or they can say 'We calculate differently" in which case you can say "I'm afraid we don't see eye to eye on this, and so I will need to resign."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, again - and thank you to those you who gave me your support. To those who think I'm an idiot... what can I say? I'm sorry you feel that way.

My former MB did email me back and wrote that she was "devastated" that I won't be taking care of T___ anymore and she hoped that it wasn't anything J___ or she had said or done to cause me to terminate. She did not ask me a direct question and I feel no need to respond to her email. Sorry if some disagree with this but I won't change my mind - I feel I am doing the right thing.

I went to the job center at my university and lined up two interviews for a new part-time sitter job - one tomorrow and one on Monday afternoon. I'm fairly sure in my telephone conversation with both potential MBs that one of these will work out for me. It seems to be quite the fad now to hire a "baby nurse" for newborns (or in my case a "student baby nurse")

After I graduate in May 2015, I will most likely end up working in a peds unit of a hospital. Maybe go on to get my masters. But I have to say that I will never forget all that I have learned from taking care of other people's children in other people's homes over the last few years. I have the greatest respect for full time nannies. It takes a very loving and good woman to care for another woman's child as their own. I hope someday to have my own children and I can promise you all I will be one of the good MBs and never forget how hard it was to do your job.

I'm reading this as you're planning a career in nursing. If there's any career that requires one to be able to have direct, honest, clear communication with difficult people about emotionally charged topics it's nursing. If you get all pissy because someone doesn't phrase what they wrote as a direct question, then you clearly don't have the maturity to work as a nurse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, again - and thank you to those you who gave me your support. To those who think I'm an idiot... what can I say? I'm sorry you feel that way.

My former MB did email me back and wrote that she was "devastated" that I won't be taking care of T___ anymore and she hoped that it wasn't anything J___ or she had said or done to cause me to terminate. She did not ask me a direct question and I feel no need to respond to her email. Sorry if some disagree with this but I won't change my mind - I feel I am doing the right thing.

I went to the job center at my university and lined up two interviews for a new part-time sitter job - one tomorrow and one on Monday afternoon. I'm fairly sure in my telephone conversation with both potential MBs that one of these will work out for me. It seems to be quite the fad now to hire a "baby nurse" for newborns (or in my case a "student baby nurse")

After I graduate in May 2015, I will most likely end up working in a peds unit of a hospital. Maybe go on to get my masters. But I have to say that I will never forget all that I have learned from taking care of other people's children in other people's homes over the last few years. I have the greatest respect for full time nannies. It takes a very loving and good woman to care for another woman's child as their own. I hope someday to have my own children and I can promise you all I will be one of the good MBs and never forget how hard it was to do your job.

I'm reading this as you're planning a career in nursing. If there's any career that requires one to be able to have direct, honest, clear communication with difficult people about emotionally charged topics it's nursing. If you get all pissy because someone doesn't phrase what they wrote as a direct question, then you clearly don't have the maturity to work as a nurse.

Go soak your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You absolutely did the right thing, OP. Screw telling them why you quit - the DB would only deny shortchanging you or say it was a mistake and you were being over-sensitive. And of course, MB would have to agree with her ass of a husband. You can not prove you were shortchanged since you did not count the money right in front of them but, like any polite person, you trusted them and counted the cash when you were at home. I'd have done the exact same thing.

Besides, it is not your job to instruct and educate the parents. You did you job and you were cheated. I wish you the very best in finding a new job!

The only person she is screwing, by not telling them why she quit, is the next unfortunate sitter. Next time you find yourself dealing with clueless parents, you can thank their last sitter who never spoke up. You say its not your job to educate them, but if you don't, who will? Idiots, all of you.

Seriously, we are "idiots" for not telling our former employers that they were cheating us - but the cheating employers have no responsibility here?! LOL

Does an adult really need to be told to pay a person what they are owed? Didn't you all get that "education" in grammar school?

No one said that the DB shouldn't have shortchanged you, but there's no benefit to simply quitting. If you don't provide them with a reason then there's no chance that they'll fix the error, little chance that they'll avoid the same mistake with the next innocent nanny, and no way you'll get a reference from them in the future.

A better way would be to send an email to both MB and DB and say "yesterday when I got home, I realized that DB paid me $108. I had been asked to start at 9, and arrived at work on time time. I stayed until 4. At $16 an hour, I should have been paid $112. Please let me know how you'd like to address this."

Then the ball's in their court. They can say "We're so sorry, we'll have the extra $4 next time." or "We're putting that in the mail" and then you can decide whether you still want to quit (in which case give notice). Or they can say 'We calculate differently" in which case you can say "I'm afraid we don't see eye to eye on this, and so I will need to resign."

Oy. She is a 21 maybe 22 year old part-time babysitter who was cheated. Give her a break. This isn't a lifetime career for her and, frankly, I don't think these parents are worth the time or drama either.

Some of you people need to get a grip. The father basically stole money from her - why is everyone so intent that he was mistaken or suddenly forgot how to multiply (twice)?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, again - and thank you to those you who gave me your support. To those who think I'm an idiot... what can I say? I'm sorry you feel that way.

My former MB did email me back and wrote that she was "devastated" that I won't be taking care of T___ anymore and she hoped that it wasn't anything J___ or she had said or done to cause me to terminate. She did not ask me a direct question and I feel no need to respond to her email. Sorry if some disagree with this but I won't change my mind - I feel I am doing the right thing.

I went to the job center at my university and lined up two interviews for a new part-time sitter job - one tomorrow and one on Monday afternoon. I'm fairly sure in my telephone conversation with both potential MBs that one of these will work out for me. It seems to be quite the fad now to hire a "baby nurse" for newborns (or in my case a "student baby nurse")

After I graduate in May 2015, I will most likely end up working in a peds unit of a hospital. Maybe go on to get my masters. But I have to say that I will never forget all that I have learned from taking care of other people's children in other people's homes over the last few years. I have the greatest respect for full time nannies. It takes a very loving and good woman to care for another woman's child as their own. I hope someday to have my own children and I can promise you all I will be one of the good MBs and never forget how hard it was to do your job.

I'm reading this as you're planning a career in nursing. If there's any career that requires one to be able to have direct, honest, clear communication with difficult people about emotionally charged topics it's nursing. If you get all pissy because someone doesn't phrase what they wrote as a direct question, then you clearly don't have the maturity to work as a nurse.

Go soak your head.

LOL - I could not agree more! What a sanctimonious drivel!!! If you're still reading, OP, this is the kind of person you want to avoid in all walks of life!

[Anonymous]

Wait, so instead of talking to MB what the issue was about, you just quit? Do you do this in relationships as well? You don't like what they are doing and so you dump them without telling them why?

I can see this from both sides. DB only wanted to pay you for the time you actually worked. You wanted to be paid for the time you showed up at the house.

Did you ever have an agreement to be paid for specific hours or only for the time you worked? If there was no agreement to pay you for guaranteed times, then DB has every right to pay you only for the time you work.

Yes, you did the wrong thing by not discussing why you left the job. She asked what was wrong, which means she probably was willing to try to work things out. If she had just said, ok, bye, then it probably wasn't a good fit.
I get that you are young and probably are not good at confrontation, but this is a skill you are going to have to learn in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You absolutely did the right thing, OP. Screw telling them why you quit - the DB would only deny shortchanging you or say it was a mistake and you were being over-sensitive. And of course, MB would have to agree with her ass of a husband. You can not prove you were shortchanged since you did not count the money right in front of them but, like any polite person, you trusted them and counted the cash when you were at home. I'd have done the exact same thing.

Besides, it is not your job to instruct and educate the parents. You did you job and you were cheated. I wish you the very best in finding a new job!

The only person she is screwing, by not telling them why she quit, is the next unfortunate sitter. Next time you find yourself dealing with clueless parents, you can thank their last sitter who never spoke up. You say its not your job to educate them, but if you don't, who will? Idiots, all of you.

Seriously, we are "idiots" for not telling our former employers that they were cheating us - but the cheating employers have no responsibility here?! LOL

Does an adult really need to be told to pay a person what they are owed? Didn't you all get that "education" in grammar school?

No one said that the DB shouldn't have shortchanged you, but there's no benefit to simply quitting. If you don't provide them with a reason then there's no chance that they'll fix the error, little chance that they'll avoid the same mistake with the next innocent nanny, and no way you'll get a reference from them in the future.

A better way would be to send an email to both MB and DB and say "yesterday when I got home, I realized that DB paid me $108. I had been asked to start at 9, and arrived at work on time time. I stayed until 4. At $16 an hour, I should have been paid $112. Please let me know how you'd like to address this."

Then the ball's in their court. They can say "We're so sorry, we'll have the extra $4 next time." or "We're putting that in the mail" and then you can decide whether you still want to quit (in which case give notice). Or they can say 'We calculate differently" in which case you can say "I'm afraid we don't see eye to eye on this, and so I will need to resign."

Oy. She is a 21 maybe 22 year old part-time babysitter who was cheated. Give her a break. This isn't a lifetime career for her and, frankly, I don't think these parents are worth the time or drama either.

Some of you people need to get a grip. The father basically stole money from her - why is everyone so intent that he was mistaken or suddenly forgot how to multiply (twice)?!

NP here. I think OP did the right thing in quitting. She obviously doesn't need that job and why work for people like that if you don't have to. I really don't understand why she couldn't just explain why though. She says she has so much respect for nannies and will be a good MB in the future but she really did a disservice to other nannies/babysitters who will work for them in the future and will similarly be short changed. My guess is the MB has no idea the DB did that and now she will never know.

I also don't really understand the whole "T___" and "J___" thing. I'm assuming those are their actual initials so is she hoping they will see this and know it was about them? Because that's pretty immature that she would do that and not just tell them directly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so instead of talking to MB what the issue was about, you just quit? Do you do this in relationships as well? You don't like what they are doing and so you dump them without telling them why?

I can see this from both sides. DB only wanted to pay you for the time you actually worked. You wanted to be paid for the time you showed up at the house.

Did you ever have an agreement to be paid for specific hours or only for the time you worked? If there was no agreement to pay you for guaranteed times, then DB has every right to pay you only for the time you work.

Yes, you did the wrong thing by not discussing why you left the job. She asked what was wrong, which means she probably was willing to try to work things out. If she had just said, ok, bye, then it probably wasn't a good fit.
I get that you are young and probably are not good at confrontation, but this is a skill you are going to have to learn in life.

I could not possibly disagree with you more. If this were my daughter, I would tell her to quit immediately, not explain and not look back. THIS IS A ONCE A WEEK, EIGHT HOUR JOB AT MOST. And this was the second time this girl was cheated. The father or mother told her to be at their house at 9 and she was - they were late. In what possible scenario would any adult think they should not pay for that fifteen minutes?!

Some of you MBs need to remember what the M stands for: we are mothers. Some of us mothers of daughters. And may well be in this position with our college daughters in a few short years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You absolutely did the right thing, OP. Screw telling them why you quit - the DB would only deny shortchanging you or say it was a mistake and you were being over-sensitive. And of course, MB would have to agree with her ass of a husband. You can not prove you were shortchanged since you did not count the money right in front of them but, like any polite person, you trusted them and counted the cash when you were at home. I'd have done the exact same thing.

Besides, it is not your job to instruct and educate the parents. You did you job and you were cheated. I wish you the very best in finding a new job!

The only person she is screwing, by not telling them why she quit, is the next unfortunate sitter. Next time you find yourself dealing with clueless parents, you can thank their last sitter who never spoke up. You say its not your job to educate them, but if you don't, who will? Idiots, all of you.

Seriously, we are "idiots" for not telling our former employers that they were cheating us - but the cheating employers have no responsibility here?! LOL

Does an adult really need to be told to pay a person what they are owed? Didn't you all get that "education" in grammar school?

No one said that the DB shouldn't have shortchanged you, but there's no benefit to simply quitting. If you don't provide them with a reason then there's no chance that they'll fix the error, little chance that they'll avoid the same mistake with the next innocent nanny, and no way you'll get a reference from them in the future.

A better way would be to send an email to both MB and DB and say "yesterday when I got home, I realized that DB paid me $108. I had been asked to start at 9, and arrived at work on time time. I stayed until 4. At $16 an hour, I should have been paid $112. Please let me know how you'd like to address this."

Then the ball's in their court. They can say "We're so sorry, we'll have the extra $4 next time." or "We're putting that in the mail" and then you can decide whether you still want to quit (in which case give notice). Or they can say 'We calculate differently" in which case you can say "I'm afraid we don't see eye to eye on this, and so I will need to resign."

Oy. She is a 21 maybe 22 year old part-time babysitter who was cheated. Give her a break. This isn't a lifetime career for her and, frankly, I don't think these parents are worth the time or drama either.

Some of you people need to get a grip. The father basically stole money from her - why is everyone so intent that he was mistaken or suddenly forgot how to multiply (twice)?!

NP here. I think OP did the right thing in quitting. She obviously doesn't need that job and why work for people like that if you don't have to. I really don't understand why she couldn't just explain why though. She says she has so much respect for nannies and will be a good MB in the future but she really did a disservice to other nannies/babysitters who will work for them in the future and will similarly be short changed. My guess is the MB has no idea the DB did that and now she will never know.

I also don't really understand the whole "T___" and "J___" thing. I'm assuming those are their actual initials so is she hoping they will see this and know it was about them? Because that's pretty immature that she would do that and not just tell them directly.

Please stop. I am the "OP" and I purposely used false initials. I do not understand why a few of you on this thread are so determined to see me as in the wrong. You have a right to your opinions but I did what I did and I still feel I was right.

I'll not read anymore comments. Thank you to those who understood and defended me. For those who attacked me - it's been eye opening. Perhaps there are more people out there like my former DB than I realized - good to know.

[Anonymous]

She wasn't cheated. Stop saying that. She was paid, to the minute, for the time she actually worked. SHE WAS NOT CHEATED. Does she have a good reason to be annoyed? Yes of course. Does the dad understand why? Clearly not. I doubt very highly that he was paying this way to purposefully piss you off. So many of you really and truly need to work on your communication skills, whether this is your career or not. You don't just throw in the towel every time something doesn't go your way, or someone doesn't think the way that you do. Open your mouth and talk. It really isn't hard, and who knows? OP could very well have gotten an apology from her MB, the payment she feels she deserves, and not be looking for a new job. I can't believe the terrible advice on this thread. Good luck in your future career, and I hope some life experience and maturity improve your communication skills, for the sake of your patients.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She wasn't cheated. Stop saying that. She was paid, to the minute, for the time she actually worked. SHE WAS NOT CHEATED. Does she have a good reason to be annoyed? Yes of course. Does the dad understand why? Clearly not. I doubt very highly that he was paying this way to purposefully piss you off. So many of you really and truly need to work on your communication skills, whether this is your career or not. You don't just throw in the towel every time something doesn't go your way, or someone doesn't think the way that you do. Open your mouth and talk. It really isn't hard, and who knows? OP could very well have gotten an apology from her MB, the payment she feels she deserves, and not be looking for a new job. I can't believe the terrible advice on this thread. Good luck in your future career, and I hope some life experience and maturity improve your communication skills, for the sake of your patients.

+1,000. I also think OP has clearly shown she isn't very mature and does not want to handle any sort of confrontation.

[Anonymous]

NP here, OP needs to grow up and learn how to communicate about issues. It is a skill she'll need for the rest of her life. Why not just say, hey I need to be paid for that first fifteen minutes. Instead she's ignoring communications from the wife who has never made the same error?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so instead of talking to MB what the issue was about, you just quit? Do you do this in relationships as well? You don't like what they are doing and so you dump them without telling them why?

I can see this from both sides. DB only wanted to pay you for the time you actually worked. You wanted to be paid for the time you showed up at the house.

Did you ever have an agreement to be paid for specific hours or only for the time you worked? If there was no agreement to pay you for guaranteed times, then DB has every right to pay you only for the time you work.

Yes, you did the wrong thing by not discussing why you left the job. She asked what was wrong, which means she probably was willing to try to work things out. If she had just said, ok, bye, then it probably wasn't a good fit.
I get that you are young and probably are not good at confrontation, but this is a skill you are going to have to learn in life.

I could not possibly disagree with you more. If this were my daughter, I would tell her to quit immediately, not explain and not look back. THIS IS A ONCE A WEEK, EIGHT HOUR JOB AT MOST. And this was the second time this girl was cheated. The father or mother told her to be at their house at 9 and she was - they were late. In what possible scenario would any adult think they should not pay for that fifteen minutes?!

Some of you MBs need to remember what the M stands for: we are mothers. Some of us mothers of daughters. And may well be in this position with our college daughters in a few short years.

I'm glad you are not my mother. My mother would have been embarrassed if I had done this to a family. My mother would be embarrassed if she knew I did nothing to stand up for myself instead of run away like a spoiled girl who didn't want to talk to my boss and get the situation worked out. My mother would be embarrassed if she raised a daughter like OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She wasn't cheated. Stop saying that. She was paid, to the minute, for the time she actually worked. SHE WAS NOT CHEATED. Does she have a good reason to be annoyed? Yes of course. Does the dad understand why? Clearly not. I doubt very highly that he was paying this way to purposefully piss you off. So many of you really and truly need to work on your communication skills, whether this is your career or not. You don't just throw in the towel every time something doesn't go your way, or someone doesn't think the way that you do. Open your mouth and talk. It really isn't hard, and who knows? OP could very well have gotten an apology from her MB, the payment she feels she deserves, and not be looking for a new job. I can't believe the terrible advice on this thread. Good luck in your future career, and I hope some life experience and maturity improve your communication skills, for the sake of your patients.

She was cheated TWICE. And telling your employee to be at you house at nine is when her work started! She was there at nine and should be paid from nine on. No exceptions and no more excuses!!! SHE WAS CHEATED.

It is a part-time job for a college student and not worth the drama of a confrontation with a clearly disreputable father. She was paid in cash - she has no proof and he could say he paid her fully with a tip! And she opened her mouth - she quit - and got out of a bad situation. She will find another part time job, hopefully for a more moral family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so instead of talking to MB what the issue was about, you just quit? Do you do this in relationships as well? You don't like what they are doing and so you dump them without telling them why?

I can see this from both sides. DB only wanted to pay you for the time you actually worked. You wanted to be paid for the time you showed up at the house.

Did you ever have an agreement to be paid for specific hours or only for the time you worked? If there was no agreement to pay you for guaranteed times, then DB has every right to pay you only for the time you work.

Yes, you did the wrong thing by not discussing why you left the job. She asked what was wrong, which means she probably was willing to try to work things out. If she had just said, ok, bye, then it probably wasn't a good fit.
I get that you are young and probably are not good at confrontation, but this is a skill you are going to have to learn in life.

I could not possibly disagree with you more. If this were my daughter, I would tell her to quit immediately, not explain and not look back. THIS IS A ONCE A WEEK, EIGHT HOUR JOB AT MOST. And this was the second time this girl was cheated. The father or mother told her to be at their house at 9 and she was - they were late. In what possible scenario would any adult think they should not pay for that fifteen minutes?!

Some of you MBs need to remember what the M stands for: we are mothers. Some of us mothers of daughters. And may well be in this position with our college daughters in a few short years.

I'm glad you are not my mother. My mother would have been embarrassed if I had done this to a family. My mother would be embarrassed if she knew I did nothing to stand up for myself instead of run away like a spoiled girl who didn't want to talk to my boss and get the situation worked out. My mother would be embarrassed if she raised a daughter like OP.

I'm very glad I am not your mother, too. See - we agree on something! And I'm thrilled not to know your mother.