Babysitter got red light ticket in our car

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

I'm sorry you can't be as perfect as me.

Your comments make me laugh.

And while I have had a ticket in my past, it did not happen while I was working.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's a big deal, but I do think the nanny should pay the ticket. She broke the law and she should have to pay the fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

np here. I agree with the poster you are responding to, and not because I am perfect. whether OP gets to a complete stop before turning right on a red light is not relevant ( I think she should stop, but she is taking a chance with herself and her car). the sitter is working and driving somebody else's kids and car and she is required to follow the law. she is required to stop at a red light before turning, and if she does not, she should pay. OP is nice if she offers to pay this one time, but I would find perfectly normal if she asks the sitter to pay. I would expect a sitter to be extra careful when driving, the few times in my life I drove somebody else's car I was definitely extra careful

[Anonymous]

Well, of course she should come to a complete stop - but those cameras are wrong all the time. Or they pick up very minor movement, of the kind that really doesn't endanger anyone. I wouldn't think twice about it unless the fine kept reoccurring.

While the nanny is technically responsible, I would personally pay it the first time. It's just the magnanimous thing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

I'm sorry you can't be as perfect as me.

Your comments make me laugh.

And while I have had a ticket in my past, it did not happen while I was working.

Wait for a short bit. It'll happen to you too. The cameras get everyone sooner or later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

I'm sorry you can't be as perfect as me.

Your comments make me laugh.

And while I have had a ticket in my past, it did not happen while I was working.

Wait for a short bit. It'll happen to you too. The cameras get everyone sooner or later.

Not if you drive correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

I'm sorry you can't be as perfect as me.

Your comments make me laugh.

And while I have had a ticket in my past, it did not happen while I was working.

Wait for a short bit. It'll happen to you too. The cameras get everyone sooner or later.

Not if you drive correctly.

She's obviously not from the DC area, which is why she thinks perfect driving (whatever the f*ck that is) will keep the cameras from getting you at some point. Everyone from this area knows those cameras are PITA's that are way too sensitive and will sometimes ticket someone even though they stopped, or they get the wrong person on camera. It happens all the time, and OP is the only one who can judge if the situation was truly dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

I'm sorry you can't be as perfect as me.

Your comments make me laugh.

And while I have had a ticket in my past, it did not happen while I was working.

Wait for a short bit. It'll happen to you too. The cameras get everyone sooner or later.

Not if you drive correctly.

False. NP here, I got a red light ticket for a similar reason (right turn on red) and had it recinded because the sign was obstructed. The cameras are super sensitive and do not discriminate between actual offenses and driving behaviors people exhibit all of the time.
Get off your high horse. This is an anonymous internet forum, you are impressing no one.

[Anonymous]

OP just pay it this time, even if she offers to pay. It doesn't sounds like she has the money to spare and will likely be hyper vigilant in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and feel she should pay the ticket. She broke the law and should be responsible for it. Talk with her about her driving skills. This should not be happening with your children in the car.

Getting nailed by a red light camera for doing the rolling stop doesn't entail a lack of driving skills, or even someone who is a danger to the kids. You're completely overreacting, as this happens to almost everyone at some point. But its nice to know that you're perfect in every way.

I'm glad you think I'm perfect, that is so sweet of you!

If this is something she got caught with, who knows how she is driving with the children when she isn't being caught by cameras.

There are cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. If she were constantly being awful, OP would surely know about it. And yep you're definitely perfect- at being a bitch, at the holier-than-thou attitude, and finally, at detecting sarcasm. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I highly doubt, however, that you're perfect at anything beyond that.

I'm sorry you can't be as perfect as me.

Your comments make me laugh.

And while I have had a ticket in my past, it did not happen while I was working.

Wait for a short bit. It'll happen to you too. The cameras get everyone sooner or later.

Not if you drive correctly.

False. NP here, I got a red light ticket for a similar reason (right turn on red) and had it recinded because the sign was obstructed. The cameras are super sensitive and do not discriminate between actual offenses and driving behaviors people exhibit all of the time.
Get off your high horse. This is an anonymous internet forum, you are impressing no one.

I haven't been trying to impress anyone. I just don't think a parent should pay for a nanny's ticket.

[Anonymous]

I don't even a little bit understand why the "magnanimous" thing to do would be to pay someone else's traffic violation ticket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't even a little bit understand why the "magnanimous" thing to do would be to pay someone else's traffic violation ticket.

That's the price of being an employer. Employees screw up sometimes, while carrying out your business. It was nonetheless your business, and your responsibility. If OPs nanny had not been driving her children, nanny wouldn't have gotten the ticket. Yes it's her ticket, but OP is the employer. OP could rightfully decide that she no longer trusts this employee to do the driving, but that's what her choice is, not whether or not this is hers to shoulder. It is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I don't even a little bit understand why the "magnanimous" thing to do would be to pay someone else's traffic violation ticket.


That's the price of being an employer. Employees screw up sometimes, while carrying out your business. It was nonetheless your business, and your responsibility. If OPs nanny had not been driving her children, nanny wouldn't have gotten the ticket. Yes it's her ticket, but OP is the employer. OP could rightfully decide that she no longer trusts this employee to do the driving, but that's what her choice is, not whether or not this is hers to shoulder. It is.

Good grief, what a dumb response.

Let's break it down. An employee does something illegal, but it isn't the employee's fault that they break the law because as long as the employee was carrying out the employer's business, the employer is responsible for the employee's illegal actions.

Um, no.

When an individual acts illegally, they are the only ones responsible for the consequences. If I decide to do drugs because I was trying to stay up all night completing some work project and I get busted for trying to buy the drugs, who do you think should get arrested? My employer? After all, I needed to buy drugs to do their business, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even a little bit understand why the "magnanimous" thing to do would be to pay someone else's traffic violation ticket.

That's the price of being an employer. Employees screw up sometimes, while carrying out your business. It was nonetheless your business, and your responsibility. If OPs nanny had not been driving her children, nanny wouldn't have gotten the ticket. Yes it's her ticket, but OP is the employer. OP could rightfully decide that she no longer trusts this employee to do the driving, but that's what her choice is, not whether or not this is hers to shoulder. It is.

Still don't get it. To use your example, if I drive my federal agency's car on business (which I do sometimes) or if I am driving to a conference in a rental car, I still pay for any tickets I get. I pay for any damage to the car.

What you're saying is that employees are not responsible for their actions as long as they're in duty.