and also I am not desperate for a job. i actually am currently employed but because of the gov't shutdown may get laid off soon. my employers do not have enough savings to pay me if this goes on past one pay period. |
$750 is high for a live in, but $300 is crazy low and you should never accept that.
$680-720/week is more reasonable. Good luck. |
$750 was for 50 hours/week so I don't think it's high at all. |
This is extremely low. Most baby nurses would be charging at least $25/hr for night time work with twins. |
My last FT live-in job was $1,000/wk. |
PP isn't a nurse. She's a nanny. |
Baby nurses/ night nannies make $20-35 a hour in Boston and you don't necessarily need any advance training to start off at $20 for one child. If you want a higher rate then being a certified sleep specialist, postpartum doula or taking a newborn specialist course will get you higher rates and more offers. I would talk to an agency in your area and see what their rates are. Since you will be live in and this job will probably short term until the babies are sleeping through the night regularly (4-6months max) I would not take this position for less then $20 per hour live in and $30 live out. I say keep looking because this family is just looking for a good deal and have no idea the real rates for night care.
Again my rate range might be slightly higher since I'm in Boston so adjust it by $2-4 By the way baby nurse is just another name for infant nanny, nannies were called nurses decades ago. |
OP, I had twins and I'm in Mont. Cty, MD. The going rate for overnight care with twins is typically around $25/hr. You can find care for a bit less, you can also pay significantly more if you want NICU nurses or equivalently trained/experienced professionals.
What they've offered you is absurdly low IMO. Also, I'd be nervous about a job like this because the babies will age out of this need pretty quickly (hopefully!). Doesn't sound like a good deal to me, nor does it sound like the parents have a handle on what the appropriate pay rate is. |
You should be making at least, bare minimum $15 an hour. That they think they can do this is just madness and sadly, you probably won't be able to convince them otherwise. Also you should be making more then a daytime day because working at night is disruptive life. |
disruptive to normal life. |
Don't take it, OP. Even if you reach a "compromise" (in which you will still be underpaid and they will be resentful) they are going to nickel and dime you every step of the way. You can find something better! |
Their counter offer shows they have no intention of coming close to your salary expectations |
I would think $15/hour would be rock bottom minimum for someone with relatively little newborn and/or twin experience. OP, you don't say how much experience you have with newborns, or how much nanny experience you have overall, but if you'll be doing full-on night nanny work (sleeping only when babies sleep and chores are done) plus being expected to "help out a little" during the day, you might want to go higher. And you aren't a true LI nanny. Newborn Care Specialists and Night Nannies often live with families while on the job, but don't price their work as a LI would, since their time there isn't "permanent" in any sense of the word. Of course, if this family wants to pay $6/hour for night nanny care for twins, you won't be working for them, so... BTW, I know of a Night Nanny who charges $2500/week for 24/7 care for singletons, and she works all over the US. Her twin rate is $4000/week. |
OP here. I have 5 years of nanny experience with little newborn and no twin experience. My experience is with toddlers ages 1-3. This is a true live-in nanny job. The family wants a nanny who will live there permanently. |
Oh, OK. Well, first, I think that they are not in touch at all with what a nanny must legally make, not to mention the market rate for a nanny, so I'd guess job creep would start on day 1 if they meet your pay needs, because they'll feel they are overpaying you. Second, unless you've worked as a LI before, and/or are able to set and keep serious boundaries around work time vs. off time, you'll be in for a world of hurt with unpaid work hours. That said, if you want the job, I would document what care and sittercity's wage calculators say would be the correct rate for a nanny caring for infant twins, and I would ask some local agencies to price the job as well, given your experience level. Then go back to them and present that info and make your case as to why you are worth $15/hour. Good luck! |