Got fired from my job today!! VENTING!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Filling for unemployment isn't being petty. It's getting what you are entitled to. Interesting how it's only okay to break the law if it works out in the employer's favor.

Do you think that filing for unemployment is fair if you aren't working on the books? How does that even work? I would imagine that you would also get in trouble for not paying taxes and it would be more of a hassle as opposed to just finding a new nanny position. I've never needed unemployment so I don't know how it works which I why I ask.

If you do file, you will be on the hook for taxes. But that doesn't mean she shouldn't file. And it's not about what's fair, it's about what's legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Filling for unemployment isn't being petty. It's getting what you are entitled to. Interesting how it's only okay to break the law if it works out in the employer's favor.

Do you think that filing for unemployment is fair if you aren't working on the books? How does that even work? I would imagine that you would also get in trouble for not paying taxes and it would be more of a hassle as opposed to just finding a new nanny position. I've never needed unemployment so I don't know how it works which I why I ask.

If you do file, you will be on the hook for taxes. But that doesn't mean she shouldn't file. And it's not about what's fair, it's about what's legal.

+1

Employers bear the burden of responsibility in this scenario, which is why it is always in their best interests to compensate their employees legally. There is nothing unfair about an unemployed person filing for unemployment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Filling for unemployment isn't being petty. It's getting what you are entitled to. Interesting how it's only okay to break the law if it works out in the employer's favor.

Do you think that filing for unemployment is fair if you aren't working on the books? How does that even work? I would imagine that you would also get in trouble for not paying taxes and it would be more of a hassle as opposed to just finding a new nanny position. I've never needed unemployment so I don't know how it works which I why I ask.

If you do file, you will be on the hook for taxes. But that doesn't mean she shouldn't file. And it's not about what's fair, it's about what's legal.

+1

Employers bear the burden of responsibility in this scenario, which is why it is always in their best interests to compensate their employees legally. There is nothing unfair about an unemployed person filing for unemployment.

If you have not been getting paid on the books, then no money has been going into unemployment. You also have to report why the job ended and the employer will get a call to see if the person was fired for cause. In short there will be trouble all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter where you are from...if you were making $9 an hour for 3 children you must have no experience and/or be uneducated.

I agree with the other PP, you probably aren't a great nanny to begin with. If you want to be petty and file for unemployment just remember that you will also have to pay taxes on your income for the past 1.5 years which you probably weren't doing so good luck finding money to cover the taxes.

Whoever suggested reporting them or going to the IRS is just immature.

Immature to report dishonest people? I think not. Report them, OP. They deserve all the trouble you can dump on them.

[Anonymous]

You sound like an awful nanny, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound like an awful nanny, OP.

You neglected to say why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:File unemployment. If they didn't pay on the books, they have the irs come after them. Sweet vengeance. And you'll win.

op here, how do i do that? would i get introuble as well? thanks.

[Anonymous]

OP, if you worked at this position on 2012 and did not file taxes then yes, not only will the IRS come to you for not filing you will be paying penalties as well.

If no taxes have been payed then you and your employer have not put money in unemployment so there is no money to draw from. Many have learned the hard way the downside of not following tax laws.

[Anonymous]

OP - I'm sorry this happened to you, it sounds like a bad job to begin with. I also couldn't care less that you called the children "brats." You were venting. It's ok.

BUT, I would encourage you to think twice about listening to the ridiculous people on here suggesting you should collect unemployement. As someone who had previously collected unemployment I can tell you that you get a VERY small percentage of what your actual salary was. That by itself isn't a reason not to collect it BUT given that you were paid under the table BOTH you and your employer will get in trouble and you will owe all the taxes you didn't pay. Plus now you will be on the IRSs radar and you will have to be extremely careful for the rest of your life. I don't think it's worth it for the small drop in the bucket it will cost your employers. It will be worse for you than for them.

[Anonymous]

If OP was fired for cause, she's not eligible for unemployment.

OP, have you claimed any of the money earned on your tax returns? Did you file and leave it off or skip filing? Consider the cost of each of those before filing for unemployment.

If you want to "report" them to the IRS, just file your taxes earned as an employee and the IRS will take care of the rest. You will be responsible for any income tax owed. Your employers will be responsible for SS & Medicare owed.

Consider what these things will cost you vs potential unemployment.

[Anonymous]

Not to pile on, but as a point of information, interest and penalties are a huge consideration as well. I owed back taxes due to an ex husband not filing. The actual back tax was only 1/3 of the bill after only three years. The rest was interest and penalty.

[Anonymous]

At OP's low wages, it os likely she owes nothing in taxes. I would file late return. report them because there are no circumstanced whete employer can pay under table. Also, OP, work someplace Legally for 30 days and then file. Former employer cannot contest this way.

ADVICE OP: Never work under table again.

[Anonymous]

I agree with others that the OP does not sound like a stellar nanny and probably deserved to be fired. However, some of the advice being given is false or at least misleading.

Unemployment eligibility is not dependent on being paid above the table. Most states do not provide unemployment if the individual was fired for cause, this is correct. However, there is no downside to the nanny for applying and seeing if she can get it. If she files for unemployment, her employers will be sent a letter and form. If they respond that she was fired for cause, her request will be denied but she can request an appeal. The employer and the nanny will need to come in and both give their account of the termination reasons. The employer usually prevails in these instances BUT most employers do not want to hassle with taking a day off and pursuing this. The only penalty for the employer is that they would need to pay unemployment insurance if they hadn't and their future unemployment insurance rates increase but this increase is really minimal. Many nannies who actually let go for cause end up getting unemployment because their employers do not want to bother with contesting it.

On taxes, the employer holds the liability for both employer and employee portions of SSN and Med. The nanny bears the liability of her back federal and state income taxes. It makes sense for the nanny to first understand what her tax burden would have been had she paid and what penalties she would incur. This way she knows exactly what her risks would be and whether it is in her financial interest to come forward. If the costs to the nanny are modest and something she can afford, I would recommend doing it because she would also then receive those contributions back into her SSN/Med. This isn't money that goes into your pocket but it can be useful later on. Its also beneficial to have a documented work history including tax returns to establish credit and other grown up things.

It is stupid to just run off seeking revenge and shooting your mouth off. It is smart to understand your situation, act in your best financial interest, and be more professional next time around.

[Anonymous]

Where is anyone getting the OP is not a great nanny? Can someone please give specific examples...aside from the one poster who (always) seems to give that response when she can't contribute anything real to the thread?? Just curious why she is being jumped on like this...

[Anonymous]

Where is anyone getting the OP is not a great nanny? Can someone please give specific examples...aside from the one poster who (always) seems to give that response when she can't contribute anything real to the thread?? Just curious why she is being jumped on like this...

1.) Professional or even novice caring nannies do not refer to their past or present charges as brats.
2.) Her poor grammar and writing is not ESOL, it reflects a complete lack of education.
3.) The OP's use of language is just plain trashy.
4.) The OP's attitude that it is the parents fault she didn't receive perks she's see others getting shows a complete lack of professional. She takes no responsibility in negotiating these benefits and is just angry "cuz others are getting it".