The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?

Of course they have power. No, they didn’t have legal authority to block it, but they hold power and influence in the process that established him as principal. For instance, if MCPS admin wasn’t being responsive to their concerns, why didn’t they raise them to the Board before they appointed him principal? That would obviously be difficult/risky for the offended teachers to do themselves, which is why the union should have supported them.

Don’t know the actual answer, but our building MCEA rep is one of the many teachers that were able to leave the school and Ben Israel, the cluster a Uniserv director for MCEA ended his tenure before June 27 when B was appointed to PB. We were all naively under the impression he would get a cushy central office job and it would be announced on July 1 to not cause too much publicity. Boy, we’re we wrong!

Just wondering, if he had been promoted to central office, would there have been a different reaction? What if he had not been promoted but transferred to a different middle school instead?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If MCEA spent less time protecting terrible teachers from being fired and more time actually supporting its hard-working members, they could have been an actual resource to those experiencing harassment. Instead, they say “have you tried sitting down and having a conversation?” and then running off to a legal hearing to protect a con-artist “teacher” who collects a paycheck and does nothing.

Really? I feel just the opposite. It seems like you just hate unions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?

Of course they have power. No, they didn’t have legal authority to block it, but they hold power and influence in the process that established him as principal. For instance, if MCPS admin wasn’t being responsive to their concerns, why didn’t they raise them to the Board before they appointed him principal? That would obviously be difficult/risky for the offended teachers to do themselves, which is why the union should have supported them.

Don’t know the actual answer, but our building MCEA rep is one of the many teachers that were able to leave the school and Ben Israel, the cluster a Uniserv director for MCEA ended his tenure before June 27 when B was appointed to PB. We were all naively under the impression he would get a cushy central office job and it would be announced on July 1 to not cause too much publicity. Boy, we’re we wrong!

Just wondering, if he had been promoted to central office, would there have been a different reaction? What if he had not been promoted but transferred to a different middle school instead?

The reaction wouldn’t have been any different. The original WaPo article started in March. People are fed up with the system not working as designed due to cronyism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If MCEA spent less time protecting terrible teachers from being fired and more time actually supporting its hard-working members, they could have been an actual resource to those experiencing harassment. Instead, they say “have you tried sitting down and having a conversation?” and then running off to a legal hearing to protect a con-artist “teacher” who collects a paycheck and does nothing.

Really? I feel just the opposite. It seems like you just hate unions.

That’s not how MCEA instructed me to deal with Beidleman. They instructed us to put every request in writing as step 1 before filing a formal complaint. They also suggesting responding to his bullying with requests for him to put his demands in writing. He often asked teachers to do more than any other principal and blamed it on CO. People were too afraid to call him out in his lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is a first-person witness prepared to describe the activity of the union rep who is personally named in this article, all speculation to this effect—a platform for anti-union sentiment in a clear case of catastrophic failure at every level of MCPS—is nonsense.

In fact, I wondered whether guy played some role in the fact that this piece showed up in WaPo.

What article?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, MCEA also kept school closed for two years, so there's that.

LOL!

Jesus. Even if you counted school buildings (no, schools were never closed, just bc you moronically wish something was true doesn’t make it so), not two years. Less than a year and a half. Sorry you needed babysitting longer than that.

Oh, only a year and a half. That makes it completely different...

I know just because a few million people died doesn't mean it wasn't safe. How dare they inconvenience us!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?

It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.

You seem to be one of the people who can't move on.

DP, but that’s what you took from that? Wow.

Here is someone else who can't move on.

Grudgie never misses a chance to blame the union for all life's ills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?

It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.

You seem to be one of the people who can't move on.

DP, but that’s what you took from that? Wow.

Here is someone else who can't move on.

Grudgie never misses a chance to blame the union for all life's ills.

You seem to be the one with the grudge. Start your own thread if you are so bored.

[Anonymous]

Can we talk about his actual union, which may bear some responsibility? Did they take action to protect him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about his actual union, which may bear some responsibility? Did they take action to protect him?

Oooh! I hadn’t even thought of that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about his actual union, which may bear some responsibility? Did they take action to protect him?

I don't think there's been a word from MCAAP at all on this....

[Anonymous]

Teachers actually need support not to be fought against as the enemy. These stories are not lies. Most teacher stories are universally treated as truth bc why would we lie. We all know how bad our education system is. Do you really think the shenanigans in moco are different from its neighbors in bmore dc etc? Gimme a break.

[Anonymous]

MCEA doesn't hire and fire Principals.

End of story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?

But culture warriors need stuff to gripe about!

[Anonymous]

The religious people are demonstrating again on 8/24 at the BOE meeting:


If only MCEA had half of their energy...