Is job market good or bad for white collar professionals??

[Anonymous]

I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

[Anonymous]

Like anything else context matters. Some fields are red hot, some less so. Generally speaking if you look at the jobs report data most hiring is occurring in blue collar jobs.

[Anonymous]

My son is in college now, business major. He hasn’t specialized yet as it’s his first year. Hoping he is marketable when he graduates. I graduated in 92; the market then was horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

Are you high? You are born 1973. You are not yet at prime of career. Retirement age is 67 and then a few board roles and adjunct professor gigs. You are 20-30 years from full retirement

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

Are you high? You are born 1973. You are not yet at prime of career. Retirement age is 67 and then a few board roles and adjunct professor gigs. You are 20-30 years from full retirement

I’m not an executive which at my age I think is a death knell

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

Are you high? You are born 1973. You are not yet at prime of career. Retirement age is 67 and then a few board roles and adjunct professor gigs. You are 20-30 years from full retirement

I’m not an executive which at my age I think is a death knell

Same here, I mommy tracked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

Are you high? You are born 1973. You are not yet at prime of career. Retirement age is 67 and then a few board roles and adjunct professor gigs. You are 20-30 years from full retirement

I’m not an executive which at my age I think is a death knell

Don’t worry. We’re about the same age and I’m as successful in my career as I had ever hoped, but I’ll never have a board role or any sort of fancy post-retirement gig. And even though it may take a while, we’re still employable. Maybe try part time or freelance roles to get a foot in the door somewhere?

[Anonymous]

I think it’s not great in a lot of fields right now. I know some MBA grads who had delayed starts. A few friends lost their jobs, mostly in tech and sales. Friends in industrial engineering and biotechnology are worried about getting laid off. I truly think for young men and young women who can hack it, there’s more demand for trades than the average white collar job. Only people I know who aren’t a bit worried are those in government (though worried about shutdown) and in civil engineering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s not great in a lot of fields right now. I know some MBA grads who had delayed starts. A few friends lost their jobs, mostly in tech and sales. Friends in industrial engineering and biotechnology are worried about getting laid off. I truly think for young men and young women who can hack it, there’s more demand for trades than the average white collar job. Only people I know who aren’t a bit worried are those in government (though worried about shutdown) and in civil engineering.

Everybody looks at trades as a panacea. But the reality is that the number of plumbers needed is not some kind of vast amount. Plus it wears out your body.

[Anonymous]

its not good, i am hiring manager and we got over 500 applicants in a week for a software engineering job where as a year ago we'd get that much over 4 months

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its not good, i am hiring manager and we got over 500 applicants in a week for a software engineering job where as a year ago we'd get that much over 4 months

Well, I am looking for people with expertise in CyberSecurity and they are very hard to find. Jobs that paid 200K+ are still left unfilled.

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Anonymous wrote:its not good, i am hiring manager and we got over 500 applicants in a week for a software engineering job where as a year ago we'd get that much over 4 months

Well, I am looking for people with expertise in CyberSecurity and they are very hard to find. Jobs that paid 200K+ are still left unfilled.

That’s because cyber is mostly about checkbox certs, not skills. So you have spend $$$$ and months of time for non-degree certs, vs just building an app and spinning up some instance of AWE to demo your coding portfolio or whatever hand waving sales people do.

If cyber wasn’t so reliant on those certs it would hire very capable technical people who likely would do job better than the average CompTIA drone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

Are you high? You are born 1973. You are not yet at prime of career. Retirement age is 67 and then a few board roles and adjunct professor gigs. You are 20-30 years from full retirement

Now you know as well as I do that this just isn’t true. Stop these lies!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s not great in a lot of fields right now. I know some MBA grads who had delayed starts. A few friends lost their jobs, mostly in tech and sales. Friends in industrial engineering and biotechnology are worried about getting laid off. I truly think for young men and young women who can hack it, there’s more demand for trades than the average white collar job. Only people I know who aren’t a bit worried are those in government (though worried about shutdown) and in civil engineering.

Everybody looks at trades as a panacea. But the reality is that the number of plumbers needed is not some kind of vast amount. Plus it wears out your body.

Exactly. And tradesmen tend to be on call during evenings, odd hours and weekends. Emergencies don’t keep business hours. My hvac guy has been at my house at 10pm in the rain fixing my compressor, on a weekend. No thanks.

Also tradesmen have to constantly go into unknown environments, some of which are filthy and/or dangerous. They never know who or what they’ll encounter when entering a stranger’s home. Hostile pets and people can be a real problem. Bed bug infestations and other pests like roaches could be present. Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly can’t tell from news. From my own applying it’s not good, but I’m old (50) so maybe that is my issue.

Are you high? You are born 1973. You are not yet at prime of career. Retirement age is 67 and then a few board roles and adjunct professor gigs. You are 20-30 years from full retirement

Now you know as well as I do that this just isn’t true. Stop these lies!

That was a weird reply. 17 years from the max retirement age (if you can keep a job in your 60s other than Walmart greeter) and then made up jobs of board roles which are just a game execs hand to each other.

If you aren’t an executive by 50, your career is on deaths door (except for medicine and teaching).