Befe’s the results thread from 2019, for perspective. I couldn’t find the 2020 thread, but I’m sure it’s there somewhere.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/778348.page

Where did MCPS state that this is a "random" lottery. MCPS never does completely random lotteries. My guess is that they are trying to balance gender and get representation from every sending ES.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son has Map Scores of 268 -Map M and 237 - Map R in fall.
270 -Map M and 243 Map R in Winter . Currently in CES with straight A's in 4 th 5th grade.
Placed in the pool for both the programs, but not selected in the Lottery for both Humanities and Math.
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Any other year they would have been sure thing with these amazing scores. However, their scores aren't relevant beyond being I'm the pool This was a lottery. I know this seems unfair but I'm guessing your kid will do great regardless
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Statements like this are very unhelpful. There is no way to know that PP's child would have been selected in a prior year by just looking at some high MAP scores. Lots of kids in MCPS have high MAP scores. There are always more qualified kids than spots in the MS magnets. MCPS should offer more spots. But they don't.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son has Map Scores of 268 -Map M and 237 - Map R in fall.
270 -Map M and 243 Map R in Winter . Currently in CES with straight A's in 4 th 5th grade.
Placed in the pool for both the programs, but not selected in the Lottery for both Humanities and Math.
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[b]Any other year they would have been sure thing with these amazing scores[/b]. However, their scores aren't relevant beyond being I'm the pool This was a lottery. I know this seems unfair but I'm guessing your kid will do great regardless
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I’m sorry, but this is just patently untrue. In a normal year, MAP scores and grades are a small piece of the application process. Go back to last year’s thread and see how many kids with higher scores than these weren’t admitted. I get that the lottery feels particularly unfair, but there is always a lot of randomness in the process.

[quote=Anonymous]My son has Map Scores of 268 -Map M and 237 - Map R in fall.
270 -Map M and 243 Map R in Winter . Currently in CES with straight A's in 4 th 5th grade.
Placed in the pool for both the programs, but not selected in the Lottery for both Humanities and Math.
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Any other year they would have been sure thing with these amazing scores. However, their scores aren't relevant beyond being I'm the pool This was a lottery. I know this seems unfair but I'm guessing your kid will do great regardless

It would probably be helpful if folks reframed from "selected" to "got lucky in the lottery."

To a PP's question - OF COURSE people lie on DCUM. This is the internet and people love to stir the pot and then come back to see what drama they have created.

People also lie to themselves. By this point in time, most kids in MCPS have taken at least 10 MAPs. As parents, we are going to tend to remember the times our kid was in the 99th percentile and tell ourselves our kid is a "99th percentile kid" even if only five out of the ten test were actually that high.

I truly don't understand why kids with high map scores weren't at least put in the lottery, which would guarantee enrichment at their home school. Isn't this idea of a peer cohort?

My son has Map Scores of 268 -Map M and 237 - Map R in fall.
270 -Map M and 243 Map R in Winter . Currently in CES with straight A's in 4 th 5th grade.
Placed in the pool for both the programs, but not selected in the Lottery for both Humanities and Math.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid in CES got into eastern. Are the MAP scores on the paper? I don’t see them anywhere. They won’t be going. It’s way too far away. Hope one of your kids gets the spot!

We'd appreciate it if you could share the stats for your child. Fall 2020 MAP scores in particular.

I do wonder if they gave less weight to the fall MAP scores since those were essentially unproctored.

I'm certain that's what they did, but it was taken into account nonetheless.

Right, but that’s what people are focusing on in this thread, and I wonder if that’s explaining some of the discrepancies.

I have the kid with a 255 fall MAP-M who wasn’t even in the pool. Her 4th grade winter MAP-M was 242. She has had 99th percentile MAP-M since kindergarten (score range always reported as 99-99-99). She did kind of stagnate in the 240s for a while — maybe they were looking at that. I really don’t know why she wasn’t in the pool. All As on math and science report card grades, except her school gave everyone in her class Ms in science last spring due to the school shutdown. Thinking of appealing with an explanation about that. I know that in the end it was a lottery and there are kids with higher score who weren’t placed, but it would be nice to be in-pool and guaranteed the advanced classes at her home MS. Also, as long as I’m venting on an anonymous board, she had the highest MAP-R I’ve seen reported here and didn’t get into Eastern from the lottery, either, so it’s feeling really unlucky. This process stinks. So many kids who would benefit from the magnets, not enough spaces, and an opaque process.

In the pool for both Eastern and TPMS. Admitted to TPMS.

MAP-M: 252, MAP-R: 245

Other relevant information: Currently attending a CES. All A’s on report card in 4th and 5th grades. He also has an IEP. His home school is a FOCUS school, but we are not FARMS. I’m not sure if that matters.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2020 MAP: 244 math 240 reading
Report card: straight A's
School: CES Chevy Chase

Lottery pool status: in pool for Eastern and Takoma Park

Magnet status: selected for TPMS but not Eastern

Girl?
There were kids with 270+ MAP last year not selected.

There were also boys with 240 ish math MAP that were selected last year at TPMS. My kid (bo) was one of them.

And my girl with 250 math map was rejected by TPMS.
Pp,last year they really tried to have each school represented in each of the magnets. So your boy's MAP score must have been one of the highest in his school, and those with 270+, must have had classmates with even higher scores. Kinda like my kid.

Nonsense, it was a lottery. Kids were selected at random from a from a pool. Aside from being in the pool scores didn't matter. At our school those who got in were solid students but hardly outliers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fall 2020 MAP: 244 math 240 reading
Report card: straight A's
School: CES Chevy Chase

Lottery pool status: in pool for Eastern and Takoma Park

Magnet status: selected for TPMS but not Eastern

Girl?
There were kids with 270+ MAP last year not selected.

There were also boys with 240 ish math MAP that were selected last year at TPMS. My kid (bo) was one of them.

And my girl with 250 math map was rejected by TPMS.
Pp,last year they really tried to have each school represented in each of the magnets. So your boy's MAP score must have been one of the highest in his school, and those with 270+, must have had classmates with even higher scores. Kinda like my kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid in CES got into eastern. Are the MAP scores on the paper? I don’t see them anywhere. They won’t be going. It’s way too far away. Hope one of your kids gets the spot!

We'd appreciate it if you could share the stats for your child. Fall 2020 MAP scores in particular.

I would be happy to provide, but I don’t know how to find them. When my older was in 5th, the paper had her scores on it, this one doesn’t. Is it on ParentVUE somewhere?

Okay I found them.

In pool for Eastern and got in, not in pool for takoma.
Map reading was 239 (98%) in fall
Math was 232 (93%) but had always gotten 97-99% in past. DL has not worked well, tendencies towards ADD).

Is she by any chance categorized by MCPS as ESOL, FARMS, or does she have an IEP?
I ask because while these are perfectly decent scores, Fall 2020 MAPs are significantly below what some other students have, and some not only were not selected in the lottery, but some ***were not even in the pool***
To me this means MCPS weighed prior MAP scores significantly.

You understand this is a lottery right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid in CES got into eastern. Are the MAP scores on the paper? I don’t see them anywhere. They won’t be going. It’s way too far away. Hope one of your kids gets the spot!

We'd appreciate it if you could share the stats for your child. Fall 2020 MAP scores in particular.

I would be happy to provide, but I don’t know how to find them. When my older was in 5th, the paper had her scores on it, this one doesn’t. Is it on ParentVUE somewhere?

Okay I found them.

In pool for Eastern and got in, not in pool for takoma.
Map reading was 239 (98%) in fall
Math was 232 (93%) but had always gotten 97-99% in past. DL has not worked well, tendencies towards ADD).

Is she by any chance categorized by MCPS as ESOL, FARMS, or does she have an IEP?
I ask because while these are perfectly decent scores, Fall 2020 MAPs are significantly below what some other students have, and some not only were not selected in the lottery, but some ***were not even in the pool***
To me this means MCPS weighed prior MAP scores significantly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid in CES got into eastern. Are the MAP scores on the paper? I don’t see them anywhere. They won’t be going. It’s way too far away. Hope one of your kids gets the spot!

We'd appreciate it if you could share the stats for your child. Fall 2020 MAP scores in particular.

I would be happy to provide, but I don’t know how to find them. When my older was in 5th, the paper had her scores on it, this one doesn’t. Is it on ParentVUE somewhere?

Okay I found them.

In pool for Eastern and got in, not in pool for takoma.
Map reading was 239 (98%) in fall
Math was 232 (93%) but had always gotten 97-99% in past. DL has not worked well, tendencies towards ADD).