Anonymous
04/28/2024 11:32
Subject: Re:If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Placing every child in AAP-level math sounds great, and E3 or “equity cubed” essentially does just that.
However, when every child is in AAP, there is no more AAP.
And accelerated-pace learning? The general-education kids will not learn at the accelerated pace used in AAP, so the whole class will have to slow down to the level appropriate for the slowest learners. Acceleration will be lost, and the kids who would previously have been in AAP will be bored, and likely lose interest in learning.
Sure - E3 claims to have anticipated advanced learners needing more/faster pace. E3 says they plan for occasional “pull outs” to give advanced learned a little extra work once in a while.
Pull-outs don’t work the way a dedicated AAP class works. Advanced learners absolutely will get far less under E3.
If your school adopts E3, it will be best for your child to switch to private school.
Stop making up BS stories in an election year.
E3 doesn’t mean eliminating accelerated paths.
“*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.”
Anonymous
04/28/2024 10:54
Subject: Re:If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Or supplement the way a good number of parents already do. Most private schools do less in the way of differentiation in the classroom. The Private school parents who switch their kids to public school tend to be surprised that their kids are not near the top of the class in math and science. Public schools do a far better job with those subjects.
Sure.
Anonymous
04/28/2024 09:29
Subject: Re:If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Or supplement the way a good number of parents already do. Most private schools do less in the way of differentiation in the classroom. The Private school parents who switch their kids to public school tend to be surprised that their kids are not near the top of the class in math and science. Public schools do a far better job with those subjects.
Anonymous
04/28/2024 09:01
Subject: Re:If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Placing every child in AAP-level math sounds great, and E3 or “equity cubed” essentially does just that.
However, when every child is in AAP, there is no more AAP.
And accelerated-pace learning? The general-education kids will not learn at the accelerated pace used in AAP, so the whole class will have to slow down to the level appropriate for the slowest learners. Acceleration will be lost, and the kids who would previously have been in AAP will be bored, and likely lose interest in learning.
Sure - E3 claims to have anticipated advanced learners needing more/faster pace. E3 says they plan for occasional “pull outs” to give advanced learned a little extra work once in a while.
Pull-outs don’t work the way a dedicated AAP class works. Advanced learners absolutely will get far less under E3.
If your school adopts E3, it will be best for your child to switch to private school.
However, when every child is in AAP, there is no more AAP.
And accelerated-pace learning? The general-education kids will not learn at the accelerated pace used in AAP, so the whole class will have to slow down to the level appropriate for the slowest learners. Acceleration will be lost, and the kids who would previously have been in AAP will be bored, and likely lose interest in learning.
Sure - E3 claims to have anticipated advanced learners needing more/faster pace. E3 says they plan for occasional “pull outs” to give advanced learned a little extra work once in a while.
Pull-outs don’t work the way a dedicated AAP class works. Advanced learners absolutely will get far less under E3.
If your school adopts E3, it will be best for your child to switch to private school.
Anonymous
04/27/2024 21:45
Subject: Re:If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"
"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."
"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."
FCPS is not in Texas, PP.
Anonymous
04/27/2024 11:13
Subject: Re:If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"
"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."
"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"
"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."
"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."
Anonymous
04/27/2024 11:11
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:God forbid kids from lower income families get the chance to do advanced math too. Rich people gotta hoard, hoard, hoard!
San Francisco's math track has been a pure disaster. Everyone admits it now. It harmed high achieving students, low achieving students, URMs, everyone.
That’s not FCPS’s E3.
Neither is the PP's post about lower income families and hoarding.
San Francisco is relevant because their goal, to increase math attainment particularly for URMs, by creating a single math track for everyone, failed everyone. It did not achieve its goal. And it didn't help URMs or any students. It's a bad idea. Irrefutably.
That is NOT what E3 advocates for. They want more kids in accelerated tracks.
And it has nothing to do with SF.
Stop spreading misinformation.
Anonymous
04/27/2024 10:28
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:I heard E3 math is coming to all ES in FCPS this coming year.
Where are you hearing this? A school or has there been a public statement?
Anonymous
04/27/2024 08:41
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
I heard E3 math is coming to all ES in FCPS this coming year.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:51
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:God forbid kids from lower income families get the chance to do advanced math too. Rich people gotta hoard, hoard, hoard!
San Francisco's math track has been a pure disaster. Everyone admits it now. It harmed high achieving students, low achieving students, URMs, everyone.
That’s not FCPS’s E3.
Neither is the PP's post about lower income families and hoarding.
San Francisco is relevant because their goal, to increase math attainment particularly for URMs, by creating a single math track for everyone, failed everyone. It did not achieve its goal. And it didn't help URMs or any students. It's a bad idea. Irrefutably.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:49
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:God forbid kids from lower income families get the chance to do advanced math too. Rich people gotta hoard, hoard, hoard!
San Francisco's math track has been a pure disaster. Everyone admits it now. It harmed high achieving students, low achieving students, URMs, everyone.
That’s not FCPS’s E3.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:46
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:God forbid kids from lower income families get the chance to do advanced math too. Rich people gotta hoard, hoard, hoard!
San Francisco's math track has been a pure disaster. Everyone admits it now. It harmed high achieving students, low achieving students, URMs, everyone.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:44
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
God forbid kids from lower income families get the chance to do advanced math too. Rich people gotta hoard, hoard, hoard!
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:39
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?
FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/
Wrong.
It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.
Stop spreading lies.
It's literally right there on the website
That's something else. You found the wrong acronym
Here's E3: https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416
"Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."
I think it's the same program: https://e3alliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CTX_About_Student_Guide_Jan2023.pdf
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1039315.page#24409844
Check out the links, both the FCPS and the E3 (or equity-cubed) alliance.
The E3 pilot has already been expanded from 10 to 20 elementary schools by the Superintendent and the School Board. They have consistently and openly pledged their number one goal is equity in FCPS. They are simply honoring their promise. The goal with E3 is for it to be expanded to every FCPS elementary, and to phase-out AAP math.
Anonymous
06/03/2023 20:34
Subject: If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?
FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/
Wrong.
It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.
Stop spreading lies.
It's literally right there on the website
That's something else. You found the wrong acronym
Here's E3: https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416
"Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."
I think it's the same program: https://e3alliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CTX_About_Student_Guide_Jan2023.pdf
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1039315.page#24409844
This is cracking me up.
The math Bermuda triangle (Boaler at Stanford - Dana Center at UT Austin - FCPS/democratic remnants at VDoE) are recycling their cr4p by expanding acronyms differently.