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Anonymous wrote:Why not a club for being an anti-racist instead?

I like that idea.

Me too.

But the important factor to remember is: if you are not actively an anti-racist, you are a racist by default.

So I think the club would require membership, at least by every white student.

Yeah the "Anti-Racist (tm)" marketing where there is no middle ground between anti-racist and racist has a certain George W. Bush "either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" feel to it.

Either you are ok with status quo. Or you’re not.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not a club for being an anti-racist instead?

I like that idea.

Me too.

But the important factor to remember is: if you are not actively an anti-racist, you are a racist by default.

So I think the club would require membership, at least by every white student.

Yeah the "Anti-Racist (tm)" marketing where there is no middle ground between anti-racist and racist has a certain George W. Bush "either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" feel to it.

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No one with >2 brain cells cares about CRT because it isn’t happening here.

This is just obfuscation. You can use any term you want, but you know that people are objecting to Kendi type "anti-racist" teachings about privilege, oppression, systemic anything, "centering" BIPOC, equity over equality, faux statistics about police brutality, reparations, etc. Go to teacherspayteachers and start searching on any of these terms. There is no denying that these ideas are now incorporated into every aspect of American education.

https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/Equality-vs-Equity-Poster-3820714-1640554037/original-3820714-1.jpg

I think Republicans are cynically distorting everything about CRT/Anti-racism whatever you want to call it. But I also think the argument on the left that "CRT" isn't taught anywhere is either very disingenuous or detached from reality. In any case, "CRT isn't taught anywhere" isn't at all persuasive because folks do recognize what the PP here says about privilege, oppression, systemic racism, centering BIPOC, equity over equality, etc. If folks on the left want to argue "that's good, actually," then it would be more persuasive than "never mind your lying eyes, there's nothing to see here." It just adds insult to injury when, in response to the bad legislation on the right, folks on the left start hollering that "they don't want schools to teach about slavery!" Where I sit on the center-left, my reaction is that advocates on the right and left are all a bunch of dishonest liars. The right wants me to believe that the left wants to subject my kids to Maoist struggle sessions while the left wants me to believe that all the talk about white privilege, white fragility, and systemic racism is nothing more than a simple effort to make sure kids learn about slavery in school and isn't an effort to shift power away from whites and toward black people. (Which, again, maybe a valid policy goal -- but don't tell me it's not one of the goals.)

Now it’s too obvious it’s a troll thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not a club for being an anti-racist instead?

I like that idea.

Me too.

But the important factor to remember is: if you are not actively an anti-racist, you are a racist by default.

So I think the club would require membership, at least by every white student.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not a club for being an anti-racist instead?

I like that idea.

Troll.

Anonymous wrote:Why not a club for being an anti-racist instead?

I like that idea.

Anonymous wrote:OP: I think if your daughter is interested in this topic it is well worth having a club for discussion. My daughter set up a club to encourage middle school kids to discuss general political issues when she was in high school. It was a great lesson in how to talk to adults (she had to get permission from both HS and MS principals, find a faculty sponsor, get permission to advertise the club, etc.) and then organize regular meetings. It was a real learning experience and she has maintained contact with a number of the club participants for years.

I won’t comment in any depth about CRT itself, but if you can’t see how institutional racism has major negative impacts on all of society, you are fooling yourselves. STEM is not the answer to every problem society faces. And on a lighter note, humanities majors are perfectly capable of getting lucrative jobs.

While in high school, your daughter set up a club to get middle schoolers to talk about politics? That’s beyond weird. Why couldn’t she have an extra curricular club with her own peers. And politics of all things? I’m doubtful you’d find even one middle schooler wanting to take part in it. And the principals agreed? Why would they? I’m calling troll on this.

If true, you’d be the most bizarre mother daughter pair I’ve encountered.

Why not a club for being an anti-racist instead?

OP: I think if your daughter is interested in this topic it is well worth having a club for discussion. My daughter set up a club to encourage middle school kids to discuss general political issues when she was in high school. It was a great lesson in how to talk to adults (she had to get permission from both HS and MS principals, find a faculty sponsor, get permission to advertise the club, etc.) and then organize regular meetings. It was a real learning experience and she has maintained contact with a number of the club participants for years.

I won’t comment in any depth about CRT itself, but if you can’t see how institutional racism has major negative impacts on all of society, you are fooling yourselves. STEM is not the answer to every problem society faces. And on a lighter note, humanities majors are perfectly capable of getting lucrative jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:DD wants to start a club at school to discuss CRT. She has faculty sponsors lined up. I think this is a great idea and wonder if there are any National groups that might underwrite a campaign to do this in many schools?

Teens are extremely interested in CRT after all the fuss over the summer. And now with efforts to ban it, it just piques their interest more

People rejected CRT in VA. You should encourage DD to do something more important in life than hanging on to past

Not in NOVA. NOVA rejected Youngkin and his dumb a$$ lies about “CRT”.

Most of the MAGA losers are ROVA.

As parents our primary responsibility is to prepare the kids for future. Future is math and science/ No one cares about CRT and appeasement politics

No one with >2 brain cells cares about CRT because it isn’t happening here.

This is just obfuscation. You can use any term you want, but you know that people are objecting to Kendi type "anti-racist" teachings about privilege, oppression, systemic anything, "centering" BIPOC, equity over equality, faux statistics about police brutality, reparations, etc. Go to teacherspayteachers and start searching on any of these terms. There is no denying that these ideas are now incorporated into every aspect of American education.

https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/Equality-vs-Equity-Poster-3820714-1640554037/original-3820714-1.jpg

Anonymous wrote:Crt not taught in one classroom in the us

Idiots who let Youngkin win on that can’t you all read.
For gods sake curricular is online

You are defending CRT, and repeating what Terry McAuliffe argued on the campaign trail.

OK.

So what would teaching “CRT-like concepts” in public school look like, and what would be the result as far as student race-relations?

We have an answer for that, since at least one DCPS (Janney) bought and presented such a program:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1018417.page

Read for yourself the result.

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The messaging on the far left is so dumb. It's like "defund the police" which could have described the same thing with less backlash by talking about "reform the police." They could have dodged like 90% of the backlash by just talking about structural inequality caused by racism. But, by broadening "racism" to include "structural racism," now they sound like they're calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a racist.

THis is not the messaging on the left--there's a wide variety of groups with a lot of different perspectives--it's not some organized structure! And then the media takes up whatever gets the more "clicks."

Fair point about the left not being organized. But, also too, "the media" is also a wide variety of groups with a lot of different perspectives, not some organized structure.

One problem is that the "liberal" media lazily conflates the "left" and "left-wing twitter" with the Democrats writ large. So if some lefty folks say something it's imputed to dem officeholders who are them called to disavow it, which actually has the practical effect of associating them even more with whatever the crazy mantra of the day it. It's funny how the crazy sh*t that even sitting republican officeholders say is almost NEVER imputed to the party writ large. Oh no...that wouldn't be fair.

I dunno. *I* impute the crazy shit of the right-wing followers to the right wing officeholders they elect. Maybe that's not fair!

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Anonymous wrote:DD wants to start a club at school to discuss CRT. She has faculty sponsors lined up. I think this is a great idea and wonder if there are any National groups that might underwrite a campaign to do this in many schools?

Teens are extremely interested in CRT after all the fuss over the summer. And now with efforts to ban it, it just piques their interest more

People rejected CRT in VA. You should encourage DD to do something more important in life than hanging on to past

Not in NOVA. NOVA rejected Youngkin and his dumb a$$ lies about “CRT”.

Most of the MAGA losers are ROVA.

I love the unifying and the love for fellow Virginians.

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The messaging on the far left is so dumb. It's like "defund the police" which could have described the same thing with less backlash by talking about "reform the police." They could have dodged like 90% of the backlash by just talking about structural inequality caused by racism. But, by broadening "racism" to include "structural racism," now they sound like they're calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a racist.

THis is not the messaging on the left--there's a wide variety of groups with a lot of different perspectives--it's not some organized structure! And then the media takes up whatever gets the more "clicks."

Fair point about the left not being organized. But, also too, "the media" is also a wide variety of groups with a lot of different perspectives, not some organized structure.

One problem is that the "liberal" media lazily conflates the "left" and "left-wing twitter" with the Democrats writ large. So if some lefty folks say something it's imputed to dem officeholders who are them called to disavow it, which actually has the practical effect of associating them even more with whatever the crazy mantra of the day it. It's funny how the crazy sh*t that even sitting republican officeholders say is almost NEVER imputed to the party writ large. Oh no...that wouldn't be fair.

And this is why the answer for Dems may be more high-profile black pols, because they have greater latitude to aggressively push back against left-wing rhetorical excess without being tarred as insufficiently woke...at least by folks that matter (i.e., twitter activists). I'm thinking the current black mayor of New York and the converted mayor of San Fran, London Breed.