With the increasing sense is lawlessness in the U.S., I keep hoping that vigilantes would make it their mission to destroy traffic cameras and remove all the traffic flexiposts.

Anonymous wrote:Four pages deep and no one can produce any usage data. Every time someone asks for quantifiable results from one of these planning fads there’s always deflection but no data.

Karen, why don’t you volunteer and count bikes for a day? Problem solved

Anonymous wrote:Four pages deep and no one can produce any usage data. Every time someone asks for quantifiable results from one of these planning fads there’s always deflection but no data.

Nobody uses it and I don't think anyone, including DDOT, believes otherwise.

Four pages deep and no one can produce any usage data. Every time someone asks for quantifiable results from one of these planning fads there’s always deflection but no data.

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Anonymous wrote:is there a way to get the city council to remove this, or can residents just band together and remove all the poles one weekend afternoon? dc doesnt arrest people for shoplifting or other crimes, why would they arrest people for taking their streets back?

Or maybe DC residents can deal with the clear and present threat to their lives and lay down spike strips in front of speeding vehicles and defend themselves with bricks against vehicles running red lights? There is no place in the country where drivers have so gotten so out of control than in DC.

NARRATOR: There was a grand total of *nine* Washingtonians killed by speeding drivers in the most recent year for which data is available. The daytime population of DC is one million people.

I’ve read dozens of similarly false claims made by you and yet still can’t figure out if you are knowingly repeating false information - and therefore are a liar - or whether you are just too stupid to understand basic concepts about vehicular crashes and investigations thereof. One day I hope to encounter you in person so that I can learn more about you and make a definitive determination.

It's the government's data. You can look it up. Your absurd bullshit is belied by *all* of the available information.

I have fully reviewed the source that you think supports your claim. It does not. As noted, you are either a liar or an idiot.

Stop projecting. The data is very clear and comes from MPD. You come across as a wannabe Trump with your absurdities.

It seems that you have forgotten this thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1247351.page#29088953

Your playbook has been well read by everyone who has read these threads. It’s a useful study into the shamelessness of those who engage in relentless propaganda.

You make a claim, invoking some authority as evidence. Others point out that the claim is not accurate and that you are misrepresenting the source. You ignore them and make yourself out to be a victim of mean people. It’s very sad.

The level of projection you have is off the charts.

The source is MPD and the subject is their determination of what the primary cause was.

It’s unclear what you think “projection” means. The simple fact is that you have made several false claims - in this case that a finding by MPD that speeding was not the “primary cause” (something you seem to not understand) implies that the driver was not speeding - that have been exposed as such and that your only response is to engage in ad hominem attacks.

Nope. You're projecting again and it's obvious for everyone to see.

MPD's job is to determine fault. Just because you don't like that doesn't make it invalid.

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Anonymous wrote:is there a way to get the city council to remove this, or can residents just band together and remove all the poles one weekend afternoon? dc doesnt arrest people for shoplifting or other crimes, why would they arrest people for taking their streets back?

Or maybe DC residents can deal with the clear and present threat to their lives and lay down spike strips in front of speeding vehicles and defend themselves with bricks against vehicles running red lights? There is no place in the country where drivers have so gotten so out of control than in DC.

NARRATOR: There was a grand total of *nine* Washingtonians killed by speeding drivers in the most recent year for which data is available. The daytime population of DC is one million people.

I’ve read dozens of similarly false claims made by you and yet still can’t figure out if you are knowingly repeating false information - and therefore are a liar - or whether you are just too stupid to understand basic concepts about vehicular crashes and investigations thereof. One day I hope to encounter you in person so that I can learn more about you and make a definitive determination.

It's the government's data. You can look it up. Your absurd bullshit is belied by *all* of the available information.

I have fully reviewed the source that you think supports your claim. It does not. As noted, you are either a liar or an idiot.

Stop projecting. The data is very clear and comes from MPD. You come across as a wannabe Trump with your absurdities.

It seems that you have forgotten this thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1247351.page#29088953

Your playbook has been well read by everyone who has read these threads. It’s a useful study into the shamelessness of those who engage in relentless propaganda.

You make a claim, invoking some authority as evidence. Others point out that the claim is not accurate and that you are misrepresenting the source. You ignore them and make yourself out to be a victim of mean people. It’s very sad.

The level of projection you have is off the charts.

The source is MPD and the subject is their determination of what the primary cause was.

It’s unclear what you think “projection” means. The simple fact is that you have made several false claims - in this case that a finding by MPD that speeding was not the “primary cause” (something you seem to not understand) implies that the driver was not speeding - that have been exposed as such and that your only response is to engage in ad hominem attacks.

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Anonymous wrote:is there a way to get the city council to remove this, or can residents just band together and remove all the poles one weekend afternoon? dc doesnt arrest people for shoplifting or other crimes, why would they arrest people for taking their streets back?

Or maybe DC residents can deal with the clear and present threat to their lives and lay down spike strips in front of speeding vehicles and defend themselves with bricks against vehicles running red lights? There is no place in the country where drivers have so gotten so out of control than in DC.

NARRATOR: There was a grand total of *nine* Washingtonians killed by speeding drivers in the most recent year for which data is available. The daytime population of DC is one million people.

I’ve read dozens of similarly false claims made by you and yet still can’t figure out if you are knowingly repeating false information - and therefore are a liar - or whether you are just too stupid to understand basic concepts about vehicular crashes and investigations thereof. One day I hope to encounter you in person so that I can learn more about you and make a definitive determination.

It's the government's data. You can look it up. Your absurd bullshit is belied by *all* of the available information.

I have fully reviewed the source that you think supports your claim. It does not. As noted, you are either a liar or an idiot.

Stop projecting. The data is very clear and comes from MPD. You come across as a wannabe Trump with your absurdities.

It seems that you have forgotten this thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1247351.page#29088953

Your playbook has been well read by everyone who has read these threads. It’s a useful study into the shamelessness of those who engage in relentless propaganda.

You make a claim, invoking some authority as evidence. Others point out that the claim is not accurate and that you are misrepresenting the source. You ignore them and make yourself out to be a victim of mean people. It’s very sad.

The level of projection you have is off the charts.

The source is MPD and the subject is their determination of what the primary cause was.

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Anonymous wrote:We just drove it yesterday and were commenting on taking up the road with a two way bike lane with no bikes. The white barrier poles make the turn from Loughboro difficult with cars coming the other way.

Try actually stopping at the stop sign and taking the turn at a reasonable speed and it’s not at all difficult.

Yeah but the cars wanting to turn left from AZ are hogging the center.
Why not get rid of Sibley then I would never drive Arizona.

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Anonymous wrote:so what is the process to try to get this bike lan undone? any cost-benefit analysis will show massive costs to the neighborhood and commuters against tiny benefits for the 3-4 cyclists a day who use it

You have to start by knowing what the current reasoning is.

Bike lanes are no longer about "traffic equity", "micromobility", "induced demand", the environment or any arguments along those lines. DDOT no longer pretends that people use them.

Bike lanes are now considered a side benefit of "safety". The point of which is to reduce and shrink the width of travel lanes in order to increase congestion and thereby reduce speeding.

Aside from increasing greenhouse gas emissions, increasing congestion just encourages drivers to look for other ways to save time, like rolling through stop signs. There's no free lunch here. If drivers expect their drive to work to take 25 minutes, you're not going to convince them that now it should suddenly takes 40 minutes.

People need to learn how to plan better. Google Maps provides very accurate estimates of trip duration. Get organized and leave 15 minutes earlier if congestion slows your commute. A lack of planning on your part doesn’t constitute an emergency that justifies breaking a series of traffic laws.

And as much as drivers like to blame things like bike lanes, crosswalks, and speed cameras for congestion, decades of experience on American roads pinpoints the real culprit: drivers! Scores of neighborhoods have been razed and historic communties destroyed to build new highways, wider highways, flyovers, spaghetti junctions and all sorts of other monstrosities and yet gridlock is never far behind. Houston and LA are great examples of this if you want to experience it.

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Anonymous wrote:so what is the process to try to get this bike lan undone? any cost-benefit analysis will show massive costs to the neighborhood and commuters against tiny benefits for the 3-4 cyclists a day who use it

You have to start by knowing what the current reasoning is.

Bike lanes are no longer about "traffic equity", "micromobility", "induced demand", the environment or any arguments along those lines. DDOT no longer pretends that people use them.

Bike lanes are now considered a side benefit of "safety". The point of which is to reduce and shrink the width of travel lanes in order to increase congestion and thereby reduce speeding.

Aside from increasing greenhouse gas emissions, increasing congestion just encourages drivers to look for other ways to save time, like rolling through stop signs. There's no free lunch here. If drivers expect their drive to work to take 25 minutes, you're not going to convince them that now it should suddenly takes 40 minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:is there a way to get the city council to remove this, or can residents just band together and remove all the poles one weekend afternoon? dc doesnt arrest people for shoplifting or other crimes, why would they arrest people for taking their streets back?

Or maybe DC residents can deal with the clear and present threat to their lives and lay down spike strips in front of speeding vehicles and defend themselves with bricks against vehicles running red lights? There is no place in the country where drivers have so gotten so out of control than in DC.

NARRATOR: There was a grand total of *nine* Washingtonians killed by speeding drivers in the most recent year for which data is available. The daytime population of DC is one million people.

I’ve read dozens of similarly false claims made by you and yet still can’t figure out if you are knowingly repeating false information - and therefore are a liar - or whether you are just too stupid to understand basic concepts about vehicular crashes and investigations thereof. One day I hope to encounter you in person so that I can learn more about you and make a definitive determination.

It's the government's data. You can look it up. Your absurd bullshit is belied by *all* of the available information.

I have fully reviewed the source that you think supports your claim. It does not. As noted, you are either a liar or an idiot.

Stop projecting. The data is very clear and comes from MPD. You come across as a wannabe Trump with your absurdities.

It seems that you have forgotten this thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1247351.page#29088953

Your playbook has been well read by everyone who has read these threads. It’s a useful study into the shamelessness of those who engage in relentless propaganda.

You make a claim, invoking some authority as evidence. Others point out that the claim is not accurate and that you are misrepresenting the source. You ignore them and make yourself out to be a victim of mean people. It’s very sad.

Anonymous wrote:We just drove it yesterday and were commenting on taking up the road with a two way bike lane with no bikes. The white barrier poles make the turn from Loughboro difficult with cars coming the other way.

Try actually stopping at the stop sign and taking the turn at a reasonable speed and it’s not at all difficult.

Anonymous wrote:Latest news is that Trump is cancelling all the bicycle lanes in the District.

Another day, another lie by the anti-bike lane crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never seen a biker. I bet the people on MacArthur are pissed With all the backed up traffic though.

There was no change in the carrying capacity of the road.

Hardly anyone parked on Arizona before and that is still the case because every single house on both sides of the street has off street parking.

you obviously do not live in the neighborhood and do not know anyone who lives on arizona ave or the surrounding streets

And you live in the neighborhood and can show how many cars - with DC plates - were parked there before the bike lane? Almost everyone was day parkers from out of state.

But that’s a bit beside the point - removing the bike lane will do nothing to change the congestion caused by backups from canal rd and chain bridge.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never seen a biker. I bet the people on MacArthur are pissed With all the backed up traffic though.

There was no change in the carrying capacity of the road.

Hardly anyone parked on Arizona before and that is still the case because every single house on both sides of the street has off street parking.

you obviously do not live in the neighborhood and do not know anyone who lives on arizona ave or the surrounding streets

I live in the neighborhood and can confirm that nothing much has changed besides insufferable commuters and those who own far too many cars having a new scapegoat to blame for their own questionable life choices. As PP noted, the carrying capacity of the road has not changed and neither has the backlog at that intersection - many velophones also suffer from amnesia, or so it seems.