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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

No they're not, unless it's a little kiddie one for like toddlers or something

Yes it is. 13 year olds aren't hanging out at the local playground. You live in some kind of fantasyland.

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. I know what my friends and I did. Also I think it's funny that a 13 year is somehow too old for kid stuff, but it's totally fine for them to have free access to the internet and social media. Them adults will complain that they're acting too old and growing up to fast.

You may give your kids free access to internet and social media, but many of us don't. Mine didn't have social media till 14 and it's heavily monitored. And, most 13 year olds don't want to hang out at the playground and only do it as they aren't welcome in their home or they are really bored. That is for elementary school.

I don't give free internet access at all. I guess 13 year are far different than I was

Maybe that's it. You are a sample size of one former 13 year old, of a different generation. Time has moved on and so should you.

So as an extremely young teen, 13 you only did organized activities. You never went outside with friends just for fun? You didn't ride bikes or play basketball? No night games, like capture the flag?

No, the opposite. My mom was too lazy and sat around smoking watching tv or gossiping with her friends not caring what I was doing at 13. Likely just riding my bike to my friends houses so we could do nothing together. I want better for my kids.

There were plenty of parents back then that didn’t initiate anything. The motivated kids were at the basketball court every day or skating and ice hockey where there was cold weather. The local fields had baseball diamonds where you could go with a few kids and practice.

I know growing up this is what everyone did until they joined school sports. And I know former pros in football, hockey and lacrosse.

So stop blaming your parents when it was you who didn’t have the drive to do it.

Your privilege is showing. Some of us weren’t in nice neighborhoods with ice rinks, baseball diamonds or basketball courts. I mean come on.

We make it work by never living somewhere where you would live. We have a 1000 square foot house in a less desirable area. You spend your money on trips, housing and other things and we choose activities.

What are you even talking about? We are talking about “parents back then” in my reply aka when we were all growing up. And I can assure you, my parents didn’t have money for “trips and activities” just like we couldn’t afford the kind of place where I would be “self motivated” to play baseball or ice hockey.

That PP is nonsensical. What all of this overlooks is that youth sports are very much pay to play. Which is a disaster for disadvantaged youths who can't participate without scholarships or other help. It's not that they just aren't motivated enough as that delusional PP would argue.

Any kid who is good enough will find a way to make it work through school or outside school. There is help for kids who are really good. People are just making excuses for being lazy and wanting to spend the money on themselves and their wants vs. the kids. That's ok but just say so. Don't complain other kids are over scheduled for doing things they enjoy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

No they're not, unless it's a little kiddie one for like toddlers or something

Yes it is. 13 year olds aren't hanging out at the local playground. You live in some kind of fantasyland.

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. I know what my friends and I did. Also I think it's funny that a 13 year is somehow too old for kid stuff, but it's totally fine for them to have free access to the internet and social media. Them adults will complain that they're acting too old and growing up to fast.

You may give your kids free access to internet and social media, but many of us don't. Mine didn't have social media till 14 and it's heavily monitored. And, most 13 year olds don't want to hang out at the playground and only do it as they aren't welcome in their home or they are really bored. That is for elementary school.

I don't give free internet access at all. I guess 13 year are far different than I was

Maybe that's it. You are a sample size of one former 13 year old, of a different generation. Time has moved on and so should you.

So as an extremely young teen, 13 you only did organized activities. You never went outside with friends just for fun? You didn't ride bikes or play basketball? No night games, like capture the flag?

No, the opposite. My mom was too lazy and sat around smoking watching tv or gossiping with her friends not caring what I was doing at 13. Likely just riding my bike to my friends houses so we could do nothing together. I want better for my kids.

There were plenty of parents back then that didn’t initiate anything. The motivated kids were at the basketball court every day or skating and ice hockey where there was cold weather. The local fields had baseball diamonds where you could go with a few kids and practice.

I know growing up this is what everyone did until they joined school sports. And I know former pros in football, hockey and lacrosse.

So stop blaming your parents when it was you who didn’t have the drive to do it.

Your privilege is showing. Some of us weren’t in nice neighborhoods with ice rinks, baseball diamonds or basketball courts. I mean come on.

We make it work by never living somewhere where you would live. We have a 1000 square foot house in a less desirable area. You spend your money on trips, housing and other things and we choose activities.

What are you even talking about? We are talking about “parents back then” in my reply aka when we were all growing up. And I can assure you, my parents didn’t have money for “trips and activities” just like we couldn’t afford the kind of place where I would be “self motivated” to play baseball or ice hockey.

That PP is nonsensical. What all of this overlooks is that youth sports are very much pay to play. Which is a disaster for disadvantaged youths who can't participate without scholarships or other help. It's not that they just aren't motivated enough as that delusional PP would argue.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. The very big difference about older kids is that only the kids need to get along. Everything is drop off and parents are not involved anymore. From about 8-9, my boys would make plans.

In preschool and kindergarten, it is as much for parents as kids and if moms don’t get along, that play date isn’t happening. Early elementary is challenging since parents may not feel comfortable dropping off and they don’t want to give up that one Saturday afternoon to OP with one child when they can meet a good friend or go to Costco. They would rather go to Costco or stay home and relax so they say they are busy.

There as no way my 8-9 year old made plans.

Making plans equates to 2-3 boys begging parents at school pick up if Johnny and Bobby can come over. Or if we say we have soccer, DS asking if Bobby can come over after soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

No they're not, unless it's a little kiddie one for like toddlers or something

Yes it is. 13 year olds aren't hanging out at the local playground. You live in some kind of fantasyland.

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. I know what my friends and I did. Also I think it's funny that a 13 year is somehow too old for kid stuff, but it's totally fine for them to have free access to the internet and social media. Them adults will complain that they're acting too old and growing up to fast.

You may give your kids free access to internet and social media, but many of us don't. Mine didn't have social media till 14 and it's heavily monitored. And, most 13 year olds don't want to hang out at the playground and only do it as they aren't welcome in their home or they are really bored. That is for elementary school.

I don't give free internet access at all. I guess 13 year are far different than I was

Maybe that's it. You are a sample size of one former 13 year old, of a different generation. Time has moved on and so should you.

So as an extremely young teen, 13 you only did organized activities. You never went outside with friends just for fun? You didn't ride bikes or play basketball? No night games, like capture the flag?

No, the opposite. My mom was too lazy and sat around smoking watching tv or gossiping with her friends not caring what I was doing at 13. Likely just riding my bike to my friends houses so we could do nothing together. I want better for my kids.

There were plenty of parents back then that didn’t initiate anything. The motivated kids were at the basketball court every day or skating and ice hockey where there was cold weather. The local fields had baseball diamonds where you could go with a few kids and practice.

I know growing up this is what everyone did until they joined school sports. And I know former pros in football, hockey and lacrosse.

So stop blaming your parents when it was you who didn’t have the drive to do it.

Your privilege is showing. Some of us weren’t in nice neighborhoods with ice rinks, baseball diamonds or basketball courts. I mean come on.

We make it work by never living somewhere where you would live. We have a 1000 square foot house in a less desirable area. You spend your money on trips, housing and other things and we choose activities.

What are you even talking about? We are talking about “parents back then” in my reply aka when we were all growing up. And I can assure you, my parents didn’t have money for “trips and activities” just like we couldn’t afford the kind of place where I would be “self motivated” to play baseball or ice hockey.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even get OPs beef. She said kids need to be bored but also her kid has no one to play with. So, kid is probably bored. Isn't this what OP wanted?

No, ops can probably can entertain themselves and handle boredom, but it's always better and more fun for kids to have other kids around.

Great things happen when bored teenagers get together.

Once again, not all teenagers do thos things. They ate capable of just being kids and have fun. I'm sorry for kids who aren't.

Are you sorry for the ones sitting at home bored who start chatting with strangers on Discord? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1192713.page

Sitting around chatting with strangers on discord I'd not a great idea or something that I'd allow.

How about Roblox? The linked article describes how perpetrators have groomed kids as young as 8 years old whom they met in Roblox chatrooms. https://wapo.st/4cb7bi9

These online games make me nervous. So far my kids haven't asked and don't have an interest. Not sure how I'd handle if they did.

Now imagine your kid is in middle school enjoying free time at the playground with other kids whose phones have full access to discord or snap or Roblox. Now your permission is not needed because it’s not your phone.

MS is too old for playgrounds.

No they're not, unless it's a little kiddie one for like toddlers or something

Yes it is. 13 year olds aren't hanging out at the local playground. You live in some kind of fantasyland.

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. I know what my friends and I did. Also I think it's funny that a 13 year is somehow too old for kid stuff, but it's totally fine for them to have free access to the internet and social media. Them adults will complain that they're acting too old and growing up to fast.

You may give your kids free access to internet and social media, but many of us don't. Mine didn't have social media till 14 and it's heavily monitored. And, most 13 year olds don't want to hang out at the playground and only do it as they aren't welcome in their home or they are really bored. That is for elementary school.

I don't give free internet access at all. I guess 13 year are far different than I was

Maybe that's it. You are a sample size of one former 13 year old, of a different generation. Time has moved on and so should you.

So as an extremely young teen, 13 you only did organized activities. You never went outside with friends just for fun? You didn't ride bikes or play basketball? No night games, like capture the flag?

No, the opposite. My mom was too lazy and sat around smoking watching tv or gossiping with her friends not caring what I was doing at 13. Likely just riding my bike to my friends houses so we could do nothing together. I want better for my kids.

There were plenty of parents back then that didn’t initiate anything. The motivated kids were at the basketball court every day or skating and ice hockey where there was cold weather. The local fields had baseball diamonds where you could go with a few kids and practice.

I know growing up this is what everyone did until they joined school sports. And I know former pros in football, hockey and lacrosse.

So stop blaming your parents when it was you who didn’t have the drive to do it.

Your privilege is showing. Some of us weren’t in nice neighborhoods with ice rinks, baseball diamonds or basketball courts. I mean come on.

We make it work by never living somewhere where you would live. We have a 1000 square foot house in a less desirable area. You spend your money on trips, housing and other things and we choose activities.