Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 13:32     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

One of DD's best friends had a perfect NNAT score. She's a pretty smart kid, not any kind of a genius. None of the kids I find to be exceptional, have had perfect scores in any of these ability tests, just high scores. But also, very high WISC/SB (where tested; n is pretty small, obviously).

If your DD hasn't demonstrated herself to be exceptional, chances are, she's one of those really smart kids, not the next coming of Einstein. If you want to explore further what her areas of strength and weakness are, previous posters had good ideas, including having her take IQ tests.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 12:57     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?




Well it was years ago, so I really haven't given much thought to her scores in quite a while. And even though she scored 99 percentile, she could have still scored quite a few points below the max. Seeing her get the max score was really quite a bit more than a slight surprise, I was actually rather astounded by it


I have no idea why this would astound you. My kid scored very high on the cogat and Wisc. You had no idea with 2- 99% scores, admission into the gifted program, and presumably years of success in that program and you are astounded that the kid got a perfect score on an abilities test?




Yeah. To me a 160 seems like it's Einsteinian level smart, and while it's pretty obvious to me that DD is very smart, she spends most of her free time texting friends, making tik toks, and watching James Charles makeup tutorials. She doesn't seem to be on the path for curing cancer.


What math is she taking? What county is she in and what gifted program? What are her grades? What science and English is she taking?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 12:39     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?




Well it was years ago, so I really haven't given much thought to her scores in quite a while. And even though she scored 99 percentile, she could have still scored quite a few points below the max. Seeing her get the max score was really quite a bit more than a slight surprise, I was actually rather astounded by it


I have no idea why this would astound you. My kid scored very high on the cogat and Wisc. You had no idea with 2- 99% scores, admission into the gifted program, and presumably years of success in that program and you are astounded that the kid got a perfect score on an abilities test?




Yeah. To me a 160 seems like it's Einsteinian level smart, and while it's pretty obvious to me that DD is very smart, she spends most of her free time texting friends, making tik toks, and watching James Charles makeup tutorials. She doesn't seem to be on the path for curing cancer.


It's just one test--and not one of the more predictive ones. It may be particularly well-aligned to her strengths. If you want to understand her abilities get a full-scale IQ test.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 12:29     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:OP, just to give you another perspective. I know a 4th grader who got a 154 on the NNAT in 1st grade. It isn’t a 160, but damn close. The parent was thrilled and talked about it constantly. That child went on to get a 118 on the CogAT in 2nd grade and did not get o to the AAP program in FCPS. Parents decided to get a WISC to appeal and spoke of it frequently leading up to it. The child took the IQ test and nobody ever heard another word about it and the child did not get into AAP, nor did they try again for 4th grade entry to my knowledge. The conclusion I draw is that the child’s IQ was not terribly high. Just sayin’.


sounds like you really don’t like these people.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 12:26     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

OP, just to give you another perspective. I know a 4th grader who got a 154 on the NNAT in 1st grade. It isn’t a 160, but damn close. The parent was thrilled and talked about it constantly. That child went on to get a 118 on the CogAT in 2nd grade and did not get o to the AAP program in FCPS. Parents decided to get a WISC to appeal and spoke of it frequently leading up to it. The child took the IQ test and nobody ever heard another word about it and the child did not get into AAP, nor did they try again for 4th grade entry to my knowledge. The conclusion I draw is that the child’s IQ was not terribly high. Just sayin’.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 10:18     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?




Well it was years ago, so I really haven't given much thought to her scores in quite a while. And even though she scored 99 percentile, she could have still scored quite a few points below the max. Seeing her get the max score was really quite a bit more than a slight surprise, I was actually rather astounded by it


I have no idea why this would astound you. My kid scored very high on the cogat and Wisc. You had no idea with 2- 99% scores, admission into the gifted program, and presumably years of success in that program and you are astounded that the kid got a perfect score on an abilities test?



Yeah. To me a 160 seems like it's Einsteinian level smart, and while it's pretty obvious to me that DD is very smart, she spends most of her free time texting friends, making tik toks, and watching James Charles makeup tutorials. She doesn't seem to be on the path for curing cancer.


Well, that makes sense because the NNAT doesn't measure anything having to do with advanced math, physics, or biomedical research. Your daughter is good at visual puzzles. That's great. There's probably one or two subtests on the WISC (a proper IQ test) that correlate highly with it. You could have her take one of those from a psychologist if you fear you are overlooking something in terms of her potential. But before you spend the money you might want to google it so you can see examples of what the NNAT questions actually look like.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 10:04     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:160 is a true genius. Nobody gets 160 out of 160 easily. It requires both natural and highly prepared brain at the moment in time. Plus she would need to be born between May and Aug. Younger in her spectrum. My childhood friends who scored very high scores in similar tests are equally successful now. Haters will always hate true genius and seek excuses but a perfect score is never easy.


It’s not the kid or the score that we are knocking.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 10:00     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

160 is a true genius. Nobody gets 160 out of 160 easily. It requires both natural and highly prepared brain at the moment in time. Plus she would need to be born between May and Aug. Younger in her spectrum. My childhood friends who scored very high scores in similar tests are equally successful now. Haters will always hate true genius and seek excuses but a perfect score is never easy.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 09:44     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Your dd is smart. Great! However, don't tell her that all the time, we did that with dd for a bit and she developed a closed minded set when it came to math and some subjects. Though that all knowledge should just "pop up" in her head! And when it didn't, she thought, "I am so smart but I can't learn this, so that means that it is impossible to learn, so I wont' even try!" So, we had to teach her open mind learning set! So, congrats on smart kid, that is awesome, and encourage her to learn more, maybe you got a future Tesla living with you!
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 09:36     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

You ok, OP? You seem really in need of answers:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/840293.page
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 07:49     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused by why they'd take the Naglieri in 9th grade. It's not a particularly good screener, and it's only testing a very narrow range of abilities. Almost any test out there would be more informative for 9th graders than the Naglieri.


+1. This is a test given to 1st graders.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 07:49     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:A 160 Naglieri doesn’t suggest a 160 IQ or even a 140 IQ. The Naglieri is a brief, multiple choice screener that tests nonverbal skills. It also has a reputation for disproportionately many high scores. Your kid is smart, but stop being ridiculous. If you’re getting that wrapped up in scores, then get a real IQ test.


+1
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 07:21     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused by why they'd take the Naglieri in 9th grade. It's not a particularly good screener, and it's only testing a very narrow range of abilities. Almost any test out there would be more informative for 9th graders than the Naglieri.


But op wants to explain how it means SOMETHING amazingly special. Please refrain from posts that downgrade what this means to her shocked brain.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 07:14     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

I'm still confused by why they'd take the Naglieri in 9th grade. It's not a particularly good screener, and it's only testing a very narrow range of abilities. Almost any test out there would be more informative for 9th graders than the Naglieri.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 06:58     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?

It means a big time humblebrag. Ooops, guess you already did that.