Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 16:13     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:I'm the op. The problem is, aap is so inflated at our school, my child is left with a peer group that does not fit. She is extremely bored and the pace of gen ed is not working. I understand my child is not gifted, but I'd prefer her in the advanced program to barely learning in the only other option.

If fairfax county and our school had only the gifted children in aap there would be one aap class and not 3 in our grade.

I'm torn on submitting the wisc because it isn't in the gifted range, I know that.



I think you're going to need a high GBRS but it's definitely worth a shot. We were in exact same boat as you a few years back and got in, with a high GBRS -15. Our DC is much better suited in the advanced program, thriving, and loving school. Talk with the teacher and then follow your mama instinct.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 13:55     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not submit the Wisc now. My son got in first round with similar scores (129 NNAT and 124 Wisc) and no Wisc. Save the Wisc for the appeal.


I disagree. Use it for the first round, especially with a 30+ point differential between the working memory score.


I agree with PP on using it for first round. That's a high score which will should lock in acceptance. Why potentially wait for an appeal process decision? If your DC is not accepted in the first round, they miss the opportunity to go to orientation and it means less time for you to plan (if there is a change in school).


I am PP here and was referring to the poster who asked about a score above 135.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 13:47     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not submit the Wisc now. My son got in first round with similar scores (129 NNAT and 124 Wisc) and no Wisc. Save the Wisc for the appeal.


I disagree. Use it for the first round, especially with a 30+ point differential between the working memory score.


Not high enough to submit. Working memory is not low enough to flag anything. My kid had processing less than 20%tile, working memory 83rd%tile, others were 98 and 99%tile. Enough to warrant a GAI which was over 140.

Working memory and processing matter least in assessing for giftedness.

OP, what were the 4 scores? Forget subsets, actual 4 components

Save for appeal, only.


Disagree with the statements in bold.

OP, I suggest asking the psychologist who administered the WISC-V their opinion about submitting with the referral.

You may find the two slide decks below helpful.

http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.tpaonline.org/resource/resmgr/Session132WISCVHandout.pdf

https://nspa.wildapricot.org/resources/Documents/kimbell__wisc-v_nspa_handout.pdf
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 11:06     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not submit the Wisc now. My son got in first round with similar scores (129 NNAT and 124 Wisc) and no Wisc. Save the Wisc for the appeal.


I disagree. Use it for the first round, especially with a 30+ point differential between the working memory score.


Not high enough to submit. Working memory is not low enough to flag anything. My kid had processing less than 20%tile, working memory 83rd%tile, others were 98 and 99%tile. Enough to warrant a GAI which was over 140.

Working memory and processing matter least in assessing for giftedness.

OP, what were the 4 scores? Forget subsets, actual 4 components

Save for appeal, only.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 10:08     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not submit the Wisc now. My son got in first round with similar scores (129 NNAT and 124 Wisc) and no Wisc. Save the Wisc for the appeal.


I disagree. Use it for the first round, especially with a 30+ point differential between the working memory score.


I agree with PP on using it for first round. That's a high score which will should lock in acceptance. Why potentially wait for an appeal process decision? If your DC is not accepted in the first round, they miss the opportunity to go to orientation and it means less time for you to plan (if there is a change in school).
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 09:09     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:Do not submit the Wisc now. My son got in first round with similar scores (129 NNAT and 124 Wisc) and no Wisc. Save the Wisc for the appeal.


I disagree. Use it for the first round, especially with a 30+ point differential between the working memory score.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 09:07     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Do not submit the Wisc now. My son got in first round with similar scores (129 NNAT and 124 Wisc) and no Wisc. Save the Wisc for the appeal.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2017 06:29     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Would you submit with referral the WISC of 135 if the sub-test on working memory was average at 101?

All other sections were extremely high. Would the aveerage working memory be counted against the application if we submit it with the referral?

Anonymous
Post 01/06/2017 23:14     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Why keep it for appeal?? Submit it first round so you don't have to appeal. WISC of 135 is in! DS wasn't even in pool and we submitted a WISC of 133 on first round and got in on first round. DS had a subscore of 142 which may have helped. Processing speed dragged the score down.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2017 16:09     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:What if my child's Wisc score is above 135, should I wait to submit it for appeal or parent refer with the Wisc score?


Keep it for appeal. Good luck with your referral!!!
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2017 14:44     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What if my child's Wisc score is above 135, should I wait to submit it for appeal or parent refer with the Wisc score?


Some people opt to hold the WISC for appeal. Others submit it with the parent referral. Either approach is fine.

Personally, I would submit with the parent referral as I would rather have my child learn of eligibility in the initial round so we could attend the Center orientation session.


My child had a very high FSIQ score. I included it in the first submission, but he was also already in the pool. (If he wasn't in the pool, I would have also submitted it with the first submission but might have been a little iffier about it.)
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2017 14:19     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:What if my child's Wisc score is above 135, should I wait to submit it for appeal or parent refer with the Wisc score?


Some people opt to hold the WISC for appeal. Others submit it with the parent referral. Either approach is fine.

Personally, I would submit with the parent referral as I would rather have my child learn of eligibility in the initial round so we could attend the Center orientation session.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2017 10:18     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
What if my child's Wisc score is above 135, should I wait to submit it for appeal or parent refer with the Wisc score?
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2017 05:25     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It is not a WISC score, but the general trend is that a FSIQ and the CogAT composite score DO track one another. They are usually within a few points of each other.


This was not the case with any of my three kids.


Nor mine. CogAt was 129. Wisc-V FSIQ was 142.


Similar for lots of kids though:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/466413.page

Clearly not all kids, but for many it seems true. It was for my son.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 23:19     Subject: Re:Wisc 5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It is not a WISC score, but the general trend is that a FSIQ and the CogAT composite score DO track one another. They are usually within a few points of each other.


This was not the case with any of my three kids.


Nor mine. CogAt was 129. Wisc-V FSIQ was 142.