WISC scores vs Cogat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to say FSIQ of 118 would *NOT* yield a favorable appeal decision...

Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For my son, same score for CogAT and WISC.
NNAT: 147
CogAT: 141
WISC: 141
GAI: 145

My friend has a DYS. The same score for both too.
NNAT: 160
CogAT: 157
WISC: 157
GAI: 165

This kid has super high score for all. What does DYS mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This kid has super high score for all. What does DYS mean?

Davidson Young Scholar.

http://www.davidsongifted.org/youngscholars/

[Anonymous]

Wow, how many DYS in the country?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This kid has super high score for all. What does DYS mean?

Davidson Young Scholar.

http://www.davidsongifted.org/youngscholars/

[Anonymous]

How do you determine the GAI? That score wasn't included in our report

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you determine the GAI? That score wasn't included in our report

http://images.pearsonclinical.com/images/assets/WISC-IV/80720_WISCIV_Hr_r4.pdf

[Anonymous]

The Fairfax Cogat and NNAT percentiles are skewed due to test-preppers in Fairfax. It pushes the scores higher overall due to the preppers gaming their scores and so a non-prepped child is much more likely to do worse in comparison to his "fairfax peers" on the Cogat and NNAT vs a WISC type test, where he is not being compared to (test-prepped) children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Fairfax Cogat and NNAT percentiles are skewed due to test-preppers in Fairfax. It pushes the scores higher overall due to the preppers gaming their scores and so a non-prepped child is much more likely to do worse in comparison to his "fairfax peers" on the Cogat and NNAT vs a WISC type test, where he is not being compared to (test-prepped) children.

but parents can still test prep their kids for WISC!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Fairfax Cogat and NNAT percentiles are skewed due to test-preppers in Fairfax. It pushes the scores higher overall due to the preppers gaming their scores and so a non-prepped child is much more likely to do worse in comparison to his "fairfax peers" on the Cogat and NNAT vs a WISC type test, where he is not being compared to (test-prepped) children.

but parents can still test prep their kids for WISC!!

Yep! Sadly, it puts undue academic pressure on kids who aren't as bright as they're prepped scores indicate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Fairfax Cogat and NNAT percentiles are skewed due to test-preppers in Fairfax. It pushes the scores higher overall due to the preppers gaming their scores and so a non-prepped child is much more likely to do worse in comparison to his "fairfax peers" on the Cogat and NNAT vs a WISC type test, where he is not being compared to (test-prepped) children.

but parents can still test prep their kids for WISC!!

Yep! Sadly, it puts undue academic pressure on kids who aren't as bright as they're prepped scores indicate.

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[Anonymous]

What? People prep their kids for the WISC IQ test? Is that even possible?

[Anonymous]

How on earth does one prep for an IQ test? Do people take these tests multiple times within year????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your child has taken both, would you mind sharing the scores? i'm wondering how the two compare. Is one or the other always lower. If you have the breakdown even better. Maybe one Cogat subtest correlates better?

Since both tests are based on percentiles, it wouldn't make sense for one test to produce higher scores than the other. Some kids will do better on the cogat or NNAT, some will do better on the WISC, some will have close scores on all tests. The only difference I can think of worth mentioning is that the cogat has a standard deviation of 16, while the Wisc has a standard deviation of 15. Therefore, a score of 130 on the WISC is equivalent in rarity to a 132 on the cogat.

The WISC is said to be a more accurate test, since it is done one on one, while the cogat and NNAT tests are administered in a group setting.

It absolutely makes sense depending on the child. Let's say she has ADHD, obsessive compulsive, high anxiety, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What? People prep their kids for the WISC IQ test? Is that even possible?

It's possible through practice of similar test items, and it's done by those parents who want to artificially elevate their child's score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What? People prep their kids for the WISC IQ test? Is that even possible?

I seriously doubt that prepping would work on the WISC, though I am sure people try. I guess it is not considered "prepping" when people buy brain toys and puzzles to constantly expose their child to stimulating activities ( and sending them to exclusive daycare, etc), but it is called prepping when the less wealthy scrape up the money to expose their children to what they may have missed in the first 4-5 years? I am not familiar with the test prep centers for the NNAT and CogAT, but I cannot imagine any of them being useful unless they are actually teaching the kids through enrichment activities.