The question is ...who are they trying to keep out and code for neighborhood school stands for affluent white kids that your kid had been going to school with since prek. We live in a city and if that's what you want move to Loudon county.

What families at Mann are committed to going? I know of two, both of whom told me they have put themselves in the general lottery for charters outside their area.

If you can buy a house in Petworth, isn't that upper middle class in DC?

I'm sorry, encouraging in-boundary attendance is not the same as eliminating OOB.

I'm sorry, have you seen this thread yet? http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/363908.page

I live in Petwoth, the real estate here is only going up, we're moving on to our second child and I know I'm not alone in saying Deal is not attractive at 1200+ students. Hardy looks fantstic from our POV, commute notwithstanding. We've been talking about it as, well that's the life of an urban kid.

But all this biz about low-SES percentages, and being prepared to learn, and discipline problems sounds like pretty clear code for "rich people will come in when poor people will get out."

If the school has a capacity for 650 and it's currently at 400, what in the hell is keeping IB parents from filling it now? If you say academic rigor and program offerings and extracurriculars, I'm ready to join your fight to make it happen, because the ward 4 problem is woefully sad and neglected.

If you say it's demographics, as many Hardy neighbors have expressed here, I'll say you can go hang and suggest that current and prospective OOB Hardy families take a look at Paul Public Charter School. We're pretty excited about it and think--hope with fingers crossed!-- that it will continue to diversify as it maintains its academic standards. Looks like a REALLY great school

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it really matter who goes there or does it matter of you like the program. Sounds like a lot of white scaredy cats to me.

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Like it's only acceptable if it's mostly IB. Defeats the purpose and spirit of public school. And if the principal is on a campaign to eliminate OOB, then it's even more undesirable. You can't just say, "this is OUR school-- get out!"

I'm sorry, encouraging in-boundary attendance is not the same as eliminating OOB.

Hardy isn't even full this year. It didn't hit its enrollment goal, and lost some funding as a result and there are empty classrooms. According to principal Price, every kid who applied OOB was admitted. Even if every IB kid attended there would still be room for lots of OOB. Look at the history of Deal and its feeders: there has been absolutely zero political will to limit the OOB population. Whenever possible facilities have been expanded far beyond what is needed for the IB kids. Deal is 35% OOB and they're adding a new wing, and they're expanding Deal feeders that are majority OOB. My prediction is that if Hardy were to start being as attractive as Deal they would kick out Fillmore and add trailers before they would limit OOB enrollment.

Deal isn't admitting OOB kids through the lottery, though. The 35% OOB kids are coming from feeder schools.

The same should ultimately be true of Hardy. The only OOB kids will be coming from feeders.

Why should Hardy's enrollment target be 400? There are several MSs in DC with enrollment in the high 200s. Setting a high enrollment target for a neighborhood school that can only be met by admitting large numbers of OOB kids undermines its mission as a neighborhood school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it really matter who goes there or does it matter of you like the program. Sounds like a lot of white scaredy cats to me.

+2

Like it's only acceptable if it's mostly IB. Defeats the purpose and spirit of public school. And if the principal is on a campaign to eliminate OOB, then it's even more undesirable. You can't just say, "this is OUR school-- get out!"

However, who goes there has a huge impact on the program. Will there be acceleration or remediation? It's hard to do both, and when there is demand for both, remediation always take precedence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it really matter who goes there or does it matter of you like the program. Sounds like a lot of white scaredy cats to me.

+2

Like it's only acceptable if it's mostly IB. Defeats the purpose and spirit of public school. And if the principal is on a campaign to eliminate OOB, then it's even more undesirable. You can't just say, "this is OUR school-- get out!"

I'm sorry, encouraging in-boundary attendance is not the same as eliminating OOB.

Hardy isn't even full this year. It didn't hit its enrollment goal, and lost some funding as a result and there are empty classrooms. According to principal Price, every kid who applied OOB was admitted. Even if every IB kid attended there would still be room for lots of OOB. Look at the history of Deal and its feeders: there has been absolutely zero political will to limit the OOB population. Whenever possible facilities have been expanded far beyond what is needed for the IB kids. Deal is 35% OOB and they're adding a new wing, and they're expanding Deal feeders that are majority OOB. My prediction is that if Hardy were to start being as attractive as Deal they would kick out Fillmore and add trailers before they would limit OOB enrollment.

Don't most public schools have boundary catchment areas?

Anonymous wrote:Does it really matter who goes there or does it matter of you like the program. Sounds like a lot of white scaredy cats to me.

+2

Like it's only acceptable if it's mostly IB. Defeats the purpose and spirit of public school. And if the principal is on a campaign to eliminate OOB, then it's even more undesirable. You can't just say, "this is OUR school-- get out!"

[1uote=Anonymous]Does it really matter who goes there or does it matter of you like the program. Sounds like a lot of white scaredy cats to me.