Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The premise of this thread "black people will do ______ " is so stupid and typical of all the DCUM transplants on this site who are always saying "white people ____ but black people ____ ."

Please stop. It's insensitive

(unless you are a black person making fun of white people, then it's funny - yes, brad or chad, the double standard works in this case).

Sincerely,

A white person from the DC area. and a republican (eat it!)

Why did DC Council not let the gay marriage bill go to referendum? Why, because it had no chance and it has no chance in MD either unless O'Malley and pushes it through the state legislator. Don't believe me, look at the demographics of North Carolina...there's your proof. And quite trying to BS everyone, there are a lot of religious black folks that feel very strongly about this issue and they vote.

Therein lies the solution - it's religious people who oppose gay marriage or civil unions or whatever they oppose.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The premise of this thread "black people will do ______ " is so stupid and typical of all the DCUM transplants on this site who are always saying "white people ____ but black people ____ ."

Please stop. It's insensitive

(unless you are a black person making fun of white people, then it's funny - yes, brad or chad, the double standard works in this case).

Sincerely,

A white person from the DC area. and a republican (eat it!)

Why did DC Council not let the gay marriage bill go to referendum? Why, because it had no chance and it has no chance in MD either unless O'Malley and pushes it through the state legislator. Don't believe me, look at the demographics of North Carolina...there's your proof. And quite trying to BS everyone, there are a lot of religious black folks that feel very strongly about this issue and they vote.

The demographics of NC are proof of what? And to which demographics are you referring? Gender, race, age?

Anonymous wrote:
5. Lastly, and I can't say this enough, I don't care whether the AA vote ranks 1st 3rd or 10th in the damage it did on prop 8. Homophobia in the black community needs to be addressed. It is an issue. If you are black, you know what I mean.

I think the use of the word homophobia needs to be addressed.

Anonymous wrote:The premise of this thread "black people will do ______ " is so stupid and typical of all the DCUM transplants on this site who are always saying "white people ____ but black people ____ ."

Please stop. It's insensitive

(unless you are a black person making fun of white people, then it's funny - yes, brad or chad, the double standard works in this case).

Sincerely,

A white person from the DC area. and a republican (eat it!)

Why did DC Council not let the gay marriage bill go to referendum? Why, because it had no chance and it has no chance in MD either unless O'Malley and pushes it through the state legislator. Don't believe me, look at the demographics of North Carolina...there's your proof. And quite trying to BS everyone, there are a lot of religious black folks that feel very strongly about this issue and they vote.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
2) Isn't it true that most DCUMs are NOT from around here? Did you see the "where are you from" or whatever thread recently?

I think you misinterpreted that thread. The one where there were a wide variety of places outside this area was about where people were originally from or where they were born. The majority of posters on DCUM are from the DC metro area. There are a lot of folks from outside the area, but they are still a minority. For example, this thread was many pages long and virtually everyone was from the DC Metro area: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/221124.page

No, that is what I meant - where they were born or grew up. Most DCUMs were apparently not born/raised in the DC area, but rather, are transplants.

Anonymous wrote:
2) Isn't it true that most DCUMs are NOT from around here? Did you see the "where are you from" or whatever thread recently?

I think you misinterpreted that thread. The one where there were a wide variety of places outside this area was about where people were originally from or where they were born. The majority of posters on DCUM are from the DC metro area. There are a lot of folks from outside the area, but they are still a minority. For example, this thread was many pages long and virtually everyone was from the DC Metro area: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/221124.page

Anonymous wrote:It is quite telling that posters want to blame Black voters for the failure of the passage of gay marriage. Blacks make up a little over 12% of the U.S. Population and less than 10% of them vote on a regular basis. That leaves a whopping 90% of others voting, mainly Whites. Cast your own obvious prejudices aside and do the numbers. After you do the numbers, you will realize that it was your white friends, sister, cousins, uncles and aunts that cast the votes against gay marriage. Now go blame them, if you must blame anyone.

Hopefully people will realize that the whole blame thing is pointless because everyone is to blame, not one single group of people.

I wonder if the obsession with finding a group to blame has anything to do with the way US society is more punishment-centric than most other nations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I think I recognize you from another thread.

To be clear, you think the only people who post racist or prejudiced things on this forum are people who are not from the DC area?

1) Being that I am from here, I have never heard another person from this area say over and over again "why do black people ______" or compare how black people ______ but white people _____. It's just a fact.
2) Isn't it true that most DCUMs are NOT from around here? Did you see the "where are you from" or whatever thread recently?
3) Regardless of where someone is from, it is still not appropriate.

You've never heard anyone saying because most people say things on the Internet that they wouldn't say in real life. Especially on an anonymous forum. And it doesn't have much to do with geography. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's highly unlikely that every or even most DC native is super open minded, and only DC transplants on this forum ask stupid, race-related questions.

Ummm, NO. It is so - people from the DC area ARE more racially evolved than people I've known from anywhere else - including NYC.

It is quite telling that posters want to blame Black voters for the failure of the passage of gay marriage. Blacks make up a little over 12% of the U.S. Population and less than 10% of them vote on a regular basis. That leaves a whopping 90% of others voting, mainly Whites. Cast your own obvious prejudices aside and do the numbers. After you do the numbers, you will realize that it was your white friends, sister, cousins, uncles and aunts that cast the votes against gay marriage. Now go blame them, if you must blame anyone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I think I recognize you from another thread.

To be clear, you think the only people who post racist or prejudiced things on this forum are people who are not from the DC area?

1) Being that I am from here, I have never heard another person from this area say over and over again "why do black people ______" or compare how black people ______ but white people _____. It's just a fact.
2) Isn't it true that most DCUMs are NOT from around here? Did you see the "where are you from" or whatever thread recently?
3) Regardless of where someone is from, it is still not appropriate.

You've never heard anyone saying because most people say things on the Internet that they wouldn't say in real life. Especially on an anonymous forum. And it doesn't have much to do with geography. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's highly unlikely that every or even most DC native is super open minded, and only DC transplants on this forum ask stupid, race-related questions.

@19:50-

1. I'm not angry and I'm not sure how you got anger from my post. If you don't believe the data and don't have any data on hand that you do believe, there really isn't much point in discussing it further.

2. Your focus on being "unhappy" with large blocks of people instead of focusing on ways to change their thinking is strange but telling.

3.

Would you not hold whites accountable for discrimination against black people? Would you only look at the root causes, say white poverty or their churches? No.

How can you claim that without knowing me or how I think? It's actually insulting. Because I don't believe people are inherently racist, of course I study the root causes of racism. I do the same for other forms of prejudice. You can't contribute to progress if you can't understand what needs to change. Again, your focus on holding people accountable is extreme, but it's remniscient of our society's thirst for justice above all else. I don't care about holding people accountable for racism or sexism or classism- I care about eradicating (or, more realistically, reducing) those kinds of prejudice.

4. And the white people (and people of other races) who support the ban os same-sex marriage are also overwhelmingly religious. So instead of focusing on race, why not focus on the one factor that study after study has shown is the root of the anti-gay prejudice? And you don't even have to look to research, you can read this forum. The people who are against same-sex marriage most often use religious reasons. This forum is also majority-white.

Of course, religiosity differs by race, so the approach in each "community" has to be different and tailored to that specific group of people. But this is not a race problem, it's a religious problem.

5. I agree and I'd say that for every group of people, including the group of white young adults I witnessed today, who teasing each other by calling each other fags and saying a particular friend's shorts look "faggy."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which if funny because the Mormons took a hell of a lot of blame for the prop 8 issues and they have an even smaller percentage of voters.

Well wasn't that because many estimated that a large percentage (anywhere from 40 to 77 percent) of funding for the campaign for Prop 8 came from Mormons, specifically Mormons in Utah?

I am happy to be proven wrong, if the information is incorrect and you have the correct figures.


http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/10/the-mormon-money-behind-proposition-8/209748/

Yeah, it's too bad the Bible does not support homosexuality isn't it. Christians are evil. Maybe we should burn some bibles and chant on MSNBC and make faces like this -

Anonymous wrote:Please don't denigrate the black community's intelligence by believing that blacks would vote for a Mormon over one of their own. This thread must be a Fox New faux fantasy
Blacks supporting Romney is laughable

seriously? who said this - this is embarassing

Anonymous wrote:PP, I think I recognize you from another thread.

To be clear, you think the only people who post racist or prejudiced things on this forum are people who are not from the DC area?

1) Being that I am from here, I have never heard another person from this area say over and over again "why do black people ______" or compare how black people ______ but white people _____. It's just a fact.
2) Isn't it true that most DCUMs are NOT from around here? Did you see the "where are you from" or whatever thread recently?
3) Regardless of where someone is from, it is still not appropriate.

Please don't denigrate the black community's intelligence by believing that blacks would vote for a Mormon over one of their own. This thread must be a Fox New faux fantasy
Blacks supporting Romney is laughable