Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 12:44     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

I have heard tall tales too, few firsthand and others secondhand.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 11:40     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

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Anonymous wrote:DC attends Curie, and we moved from Kumon for cost reasons. For multiple subjects, Curie is much cheaper than Kumon. Curie as year long grade enrichment for advanced math, english, science and summer courses, has been working well.

But not sure how effective it is to enroll just at the tail end in one month tj essay prep course. Think of this in terms of - how effective would Kumon be if student enrolled for just a month before final exam. Mastering math takes years, not a month or two.


There is a difference between year long enrichment and test prep. Test prep is about 10 hours of instruction on testing format, time management, things like process of elimination and how to guess, and practice exams. Some commenters are basically saying that practice exams are cheating.
If you are learning substantive material that might be useful on a mathcounts competition, etc. then this is just studying.

What do practice exams mean? periodic assessments? At Curie, there are upfront placement tests and periodic assessments along the way, and before moving to the next level, similar to Kumon. The overall curriculum is fast paced and high rigor, so these checkpoint assessments help in deciding if student wants to continue to dropout. Considerable number dropout.


Practice exams in the test prep context means taking a previously administered test from a few years ago.

This whole curie thing comes from a bunch of people who are just looking for reasons to justify their racism by saying that the reason they changed the admissions process was to combat the rampant cheating coming out of curie. They accuse curie of selling TJ test answers and allowing their students to effectively buy their way into tj. It's stupid and racist. if you watched the hearings surrounding the change in admissions process, there was a lot of ugly racism on display against all asians but particulary against the indians because they are the newcomers.


Too bad it all actually happened and has been proven here over and over.


The only part that actually happened was the racism during the hearings and the racism driving the changes to the admissions process.

The admissions changes were driven by a desire for racial balancing not to counteract cheating.
BTW, the cheating at question here is that some kids shared their recollection about the test questions and format with curie after the test.


People are guessing that this happened. What is known (at least some have said they saw it) is that Curie gave had a bank of qiuestions that might be asked and kids said they saw exact questions.

But many more have said it's a made-up story! A fabricated story concocted to hurt Curie's reputition, but paradoxically sends more business towards them


I have heard secondhand that they presented Academies of Loudoun test questions(STEM critical thinking after QuantQ was dropped by TJ). The particular student regretted he wasn't paying attention at Curie.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 09:54     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard that AAP teachers express gratitude towards students who arrive prepared for class, as it avoids the need for them to teach remedial topics.


With all of the gatekeeping around AAP is there really a significant number of kids who need remediation?

could be. with gatekeeping using subjective criteria instead of objective
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 09:23     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:I've heard that AAP teachers express gratitude towards students who arrive prepared for class, as it avoids the need for them to teach remedial topics.


With all of the gatekeeping around AAP is there really a significant number of kids who need remediation?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 09:16     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:DC attends Curie, and we moved from Kumon for cost reasons. For multiple subjects, Curie is much cheaper than Kumon. Curie as year long grade enrichment for advanced math, english, science and summer courses, has been working well.

But not sure how effective it is to enroll just at the tail end in one month tj essay prep course. Think of this in terms of - how effective would Kumon be if student enrolled for just a month before final exam. Mastering math takes years, not a month or two.


There is a difference between year long enrichment and test prep. Test prep is about 10 hours of instruction on testing format, time management, things like process of elimination and how to guess, and practice exams. Some commenters are basically saying that practice exams are cheating.
If you are learning substantive material that might be useful on a mathcounts competition, etc. then this is just studying.

What do practice exams mean? periodic assessments? At Curie, there are upfront placement tests and periodic assessments along the way, and before moving to the next level, similar to Kumon. The overall curriculum is fast paced and high rigor, so these checkpoint assessments help in deciding if student wants to continue to dropout. Considerable number dropout.


Practice exams in the test prep context means taking a previously administered test from a few years ago.

This whole curie thing comes from a bunch of people who are just looking for reasons to justify their racism by saying that the reason they changed the admissions process was to combat the rampant cheating coming out of curie. They accuse curie of selling TJ test answers and allowing their students to effectively buy their way into tj. It's stupid and racist. if you watched the hearings surrounding the change in admissions process, there was a lot of ugly racism on display against all asians but particulary against the indians because they are the newcomers.


Too bad it all actually happened and has been proven here over and over.


The only part that actually happened was the racism during the hearings and the racism driving the changes to the admissions process.

The admissions changes were driven by a desire for racial balancing not to counteract cheating.
BTW, the cheating at question here is that some kids shared their recollection about the test questions and format with curie after the test.


People are guessing that this happened. What is known (at least some have said they saw it) is that Curie gave had a bank of qiuestions that might be asked and kids said they saw exact questions.

But many more have said it's a made-up story! A fabricated story concocted to hurt Curie's reputition, but paradoxically sends more business towards them


I am not indian but I think all this anti-indian racism is bullshit, but I am curious why anyone would want to hurt curie's reputation? It sounds like their business model is easily copied.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 22:08     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC attends Curie, and we moved from Kumon for cost reasons. For multiple subjects, Curie is much cheaper than Kumon. Curie as year long grade enrichment for advanced math, english, science and summer courses, has been working well.

But not sure how effective it is to enroll just at the tail end in one month tj essay prep course. Think of this in terms of - how effective would Kumon be if student enrolled for just a month before final exam. Mastering math takes years, not a month or two.


There is a difference between year long enrichment and test prep. Test prep is about 10 hours of instruction on testing format, time management, things like process of elimination and how to guess, and practice exams. Some commenters are basically saying that practice exams are cheating.
If you are learning substantive material that might be useful on a mathcounts competition, etc. then this is just studying.

What do practice exams mean? periodic assessments? At Curie, there are upfront placement tests and periodic assessments along the way, and before moving to the next level, similar to Kumon. The overall curriculum is fast paced and high rigor, so these checkpoint assessments help in deciding if student wants to continue to dropout. Considerable number dropout.


Practice exams in the test prep context means taking a previously administered test from a few years ago.

This whole curie thing comes from a bunch of people who are just looking for reasons to justify their racism by saying that the reason they changed the admissions process was to combat the rampant cheating coming out of curie. They accuse curie of selling TJ test answers and allowing their students to effectively buy their way into tj. It's stupid and racist. if you watched the hearings surrounding the change in admissions process, there was a lot of ugly racism on display against all asians but particulary against the indians because they are the newcomers.


Too bad it all actually happened and has been proven here over and over.


The only part that actually happened was the racism during the hearings and the racism driving the changes to the admissions process.

The admissions changes were driven by a desire for racial balancing not to counteract cheating.
BTW, the cheating at question here is that some kids shared their recollection about the test questions and format with curie after the test.


People are guessing that this happened. What is known (at least some have said they saw it) is that Curie gave had a bank of qiuestions that might be asked and kids said they saw exact questions.

But many more have said it's a made-up story! A fabricated story concocted to hurt Curie's reputition, but paradoxically sends more business towards them
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 21:51     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you talk with a kid, it is easy to tell in 10 minutes if they went to Curie or done something similar.

There are so many better options out there but sending kids to Curie is an easy way out of FOMO. So parents end up sending their kids purely due to peer pressure.


Repeating your limited vocabulary?
I am Indian, Curie, Ashburn, FOMO, 10 minutes, ...

09/20/2023 21:21
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1815/1039775.page


Appreciate your extraordinary vocabulary.

Calm down!
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 19:04     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC attends Curie, and we moved from Kumon for cost reasons. For multiple subjects, Curie is much cheaper than Kumon. Curie as year long grade enrichment for advanced math, english, science and summer courses, has been working well.

But not sure how effective it is to enroll just at the tail end in one month tj essay prep course. Think of this in terms of - how effective would Kumon be if student enrolled for just a month before final exam. Mastering math takes years, not a month or two.


There is a difference between year long enrichment and test prep. Test prep is about 10 hours of instruction on testing format, time management, things like process of elimination and how to guess, and practice exams. Some commenters are basically saying that practice exams are cheating.
If you are learning substantive material that might be useful on a mathcounts competition, etc. then this is just studying.

What do practice exams mean? periodic assessments? At Curie, there are upfront placement tests and periodic assessments along the way, and before moving to the next level, similar to Kumon. The overall curriculum is fast paced and high rigor, so these checkpoint assessments help in deciding if student wants to continue to dropout. Considerable number dropout.


Practice exams in the test prep context means taking a previously administered test from a few years ago.

This whole curie thing comes from a bunch of people who are just looking for reasons to justify their racism by saying that the reason they changed the admissions process was to combat the rampant cheating coming out of curie. They accuse curie of selling TJ test answers and allowing their students to effectively buy their way into tj. It's stupid and racist. if you watched the hearings surrounding the change in admissions process, there was a lot of ugly racism on display against all asians but particulary against the indians because they are the newcomers.


Too bad it all actually happened and has been proven here over and over.


The only part that actually happened was the racism during the hearings and the racism driving the changes to the admissions process.

The admissions changes were driven by a desire for racial balancing not to counteract cheating.
BTW, the cheating at question here is that some kids shared their recollection about the test questions and format with curie after the test.


People are guessing that this happened. What is known (at least some have said they saw it) is that Curie gave had a bank of qiuestions that might be asked and kids said they saw exact questions.


I taught at Kaplan for a while and we became familiar with the questions from previous exams and there are no SHSAT test questions that were ever repeated. If Quant Q actually repeated test questions, FCPS should get its money back.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 17:48     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC attends Curie, and we moved from Kumon for cost reasons. For multiple subjects, Curie is much cheaper than Kumon. Curie as year long grade enrichment for advanced math, english, science and summer courses, has been working well.

But not sure how effective it is to enroll just at the tail end in one month tj essay prep course. Think of this in terms of - how effective would Kumon be if student enrolled for just a month before final exam. Mastering math takes years, not a month or two.


There is a difference between year long enrichment and test prep. Test prep is about 10 hours of instruction on testing format, time management, things like process of elimination and how to guess, and practice exams. Some commenters are basically saying that practice exams are cheating.
If you are learning substantive material that might be useful on a mathcounts competition, etc. then this is just studying.

What do practice exams mean? periodic assessments? At Curie, there are upfront placement tests and periodic assessments along the way, and before moving to the next level, similar to Kumon. The overall curriculum is fast paced and high rigor, so these checkpoint assessments help in deciding if student wants to continue to dropout. Considerable number dropout.


Practice exams in the test prep context means taking a previously administered test from a few years ago.

This whole curie thing comes from a bunch of people who are just looking for reasons to justify their racism by saying that the reason they changed the admissions process was to combat the rampant cheating coming out of curie. They accuse curie of selling TJ test answers and allowing their students to effectively buy their way into tj. It's stupid and racist. if you watched the hearings surrounding the change in admissions process, there was a lot of ugly racism on display against all asians but particulary against the indians because they are the newcomers.


Too bad it all actually happened and has been proven here over and over.


The only part that actually happened was the racism during the hearings and the racism driving the changes to the admissions process.

The admissions changes were driven by a desire for racial balancing not to counteract cheating.
BTW, the cheating at question here is that some kids shared their recollection about the test questions and format with curie after the test.


People are guessing that this happened. What is known (at least some have said they saw it) is that Curie gave had a bank of qiuestions that might be asked and kids said they saw exact questions.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 16:59     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you talk with a kid, it is easy to tell in 10 minutes if they went to Curie or done something similar.

There are so many better options out there but sending kids to Curie is an easy way out of FOMO. So parents end up sending their kids purely due to peer pressure.


Repeating your limited vocabulary?
I am Indian, Curie, Ashburn, FOMO, 10 minutes, ...

09/20/2023 21:21
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1815/1039775.page


Some people think their competition is the indian next door.
They're not, their competition is the 2 billion indian and chinese people in asia that all want more for their kids.
They better step it up because by the time today's high school students have high school students of their own, they will feel the full force of that competition.
Don't punish indians for working hard. Emulate them.
Most americans wouldn't be able to feed their families with their skill sets and work ethic in a country like china or india if you took away their ability to speak english with an american accent.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 14:50     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:If you talk with a kid, it is easy to tell in 10 minutes if they went to Curie or done something similar.

There are so many better options out there but sending kids to Curie is an easy way out of FOMO. So parents end up sending their kids purely due to peer pressure.


Repeating your limited vocabulary?
I am Indian, Curie, Ashburn, FOMO, 10 minutes, ...

09/20/2023 21:21
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1815/1039775.page
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 09:36     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:I've heard that AAP teachers express gratitude towards students who arrive prepared for class, as it avoids the need for them to teach remedial topics.


Different teachers have different attitudes but most of the teachers in AAP are not butthurt about outside enrichment.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 09:35     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC attends Curie, and we moved from Kumon for cost reasons. For multiple subjects, Curie is much cheaper than Kumon. Curie as year long grade enrichment for advanced math, english, science and summer courses, has been working well.

But not sure how effective it is to enroll just at the tail end in one month tj essay prep course. Think of this in terms of - how effective would Kumon be if student enrolled for just a month before final exam. Mastering math takes years, not a month or two.


There is a difference between year long enrichment and test prep. Test prep is about 10 hours of instruction on testing format, time management, things like process of elimination and how to guess, and practice exams. Some commenters are basically saying that practice exams are cheating.
If you are learning substantive material that might be useful on a mathcounts competition, etc. then this is just studying.

What do practice exams mean? periodic assessments? At Curie, there are upfront placement tests and periodic assessments along the way, and before moving to the next level, similar to Kumon. The overall curriculum is fast paced and high rigor, so these checkpoint assessments help in deciding if student wants to continue to dropout. Considerable number dropout.


Practice exams in the test prep context means taking a previously administered test from a few years ago.

This whole curie thing comes from a bunch of people who are just looking for reasons to justify their racism by saying that the reason they changed the admissions process was to combat the rampant cheating coming out of curie. They accuse curie of selling TJ test answers and allowing their students to effectively buy their way into tj. It's stupid and racist. if you watched the hearings surrounding the change in admissions process, there was a lot of ugly racism on display against all asians but particulary against the indians because they are the newcomers.


Too bad it all actually happened and has been proven here over and over.


The only part that actually happened was the racism during the hearings and the racism driving the changes to the admissions process.

The admissions changes were driven by a desire for racial balancing not to counteract cheating.
BTW, the cheating at question here is that some kids shared their recollection about the test questions and format with curie after the test.
These 13 year olds signed a non-disclosure agreement so the argument is that these kids lack integrity.
Then there are some veiled references made to how much asians rely on cheating for their academic success.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 08:46     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

I've heard that AAP teachers express gratitude towards students who arrive prepared for class, as it avoids the need for them to teach remedial topics.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 08:09     Subject: Tj prep companies $$$ wow!

Anonymous wrote:If you talk with a kid, it is easy to tell in 10 minutes if they went to Curie or done something similar.

There are so many better options out there but sending kids to Curie is an easy way out of FOMO. So parents end up sending their kids purely due to peer pressure.


At our AAP, the teacher asked the kids on the first day how many were prepped (although she put it more delicately), and 80% of them raised their hands.