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Anonymous wrote:What about the people who can’t afford to put the kids in sports? Will those kids lack “grit and resilience”?

OP is a privileged, clueless person who doesn't understand that resilient people come from all different kinds of backgrounds. OP can't imagine how someone they are interviewing may not have come from a family who could afford/provide team sports for their kid.

OP probably only assumes they have "grit" but have never lived in poverty, parents who couldn't speak the language to help with HW or navigate the school system; never had SN challenges, health challenges. If OP had any of the aforementioned challenges, I do wonder if OP would have the grit and resilience to be in that position to interview others.

I don't think this thread is going the way that OP assumed it would go.

A person who went to a no name university, worked their way through college, didn't play sports, comes from a background that is not privileged probably has more grit than a kid who played team sports whose parents have college degrees and have the means to pay for team sports.

I hope that OP learns from this thread.

Anonymous wrote:Have people here read the thread the OP refers to? The young woman is clinically depressed and suicidal. Her parents had crushing expectations for her when she was growing up. It is unbelievably callous and clueless that the OP claims her real problem is her lack of grit (and presumably lack of sports). I found it disgusting to see adults on that thread calling a suicidal teenager a loser and a snowflake. For shame.

Anonymous wrote:I think OP's argument is not fully baked, but isn't completely wrong, either.

I have a very whiny Gen Z employee who definitely did not ever play sports and definitely has no resilience. Not sure sports would have fixed her issues, though.

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I'm also a hiring manager and oversee recent college grads/workers in their 20s (early Gen Z/late Gen Y). The VAST majority of people in this age range lack grit and resilience, and they are a major PITA for most workplaces. The sheer lack of grit, resilience, and the ability to persevere when times are tough among recent college grads these days is depressingly low, so I know by pushing my kids in sports (even though I know they're nowhere near good enough to get recruited), I'm doing them a world of favors.

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is in medical school to be a trauma surgeon never played sports. He has true grit. You can't generalize about kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, sports parents are the literal worst. So simple-minded.

You’ve clearly never been to a chess competition

I don’t see any chess parents on here being snotty b**tches.

You would be surprised

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Anonymous wrote:I wish sports had given my son all of those things, but 12 years of sport never managed to change his personality. You wouldn't be surprised to learn that he was consistently the slowest on the team. He's the least competitive kid in the world, but also the nicest.

Wait, forcing my child to be the person I want them to be isn't going to work?

Anonymous wrote:OP can’t even get anyone to back her up in the Sports forum.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the people who can’t afford to put the kids in sports? Will those kids lack “grit and resilience”?

OP is a privileged, clueless person who doesn't understand that resilient people come from all different kinds of backgrounds. OP can't imagine how someone they are interviewing may not have come from a family who could afford/provide team sports for their kid.

OP probably only assumes they have "grit" but have never lived in poverty, parents who couldn't speak the language to help with HW or navigate the school system; never had SN challenges, health challenges. If OP had any of the aforementioned challenges, I do wonder if OP would have the grit and resilience to be in that position to interview others.

I don't think this thread is going the way that OP assumed it would go.

A person who went to a no name university, worked their way through college, didn't play sports, comes from a background that is not privileged probably has more grit than a kid who played team sports whose parents have college degrees and have the means to pay for team sports.

I hope that OP learns from this thread.

Anonymous wrote:Teens and young adults these days are WAY too sheltered, spoiled, lazy, immature, and lack grit and resilience (the two most important characteristics for success!). I put my kids into sports not to help with college admissions or scholarships, but because sports participation builds grit, resilience, character, the ability to work through tough times, and the ability to bounce back from failure when things aren't going your way.

I'm also a hiring manager and oversee recent college grads/workers in their 20s (early Gen Z/late Gen Y). The VAST majority of people in this age range lack grit and resilience, and they are a major PITA for most workplaces. The sheer lack of grit, resilience, and the ability to persevere when times are tough among recent college grads these days is depressingly low, so I know by pushing my kids in sports (even though I know they're nowhere near good enough to get recruited), I'm doing them a world of favors.

I don't normally post on the Sports forum -- I mainly stick to the Jobs forum and the Real Estate forum. However, this post in the Jobs & Careers forum stuck out to me:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1071777.page

TL DR: Spoiled Ivy League kid is pissed she has to take out $80k in loans and doesn't want to stay at her (elite, prestigious) Ivy since it's "too stressful" and "too competitive" and "too cutthroat" and yadda yadda yadda all that BS. It is painfully obvious that this girl's parents never put her in team sports (or any team activity, really) where she had to fail and bounce back from disappointing losses to build grit and resilience. This spoiled young woman is unable to bounce back from her negativity and constant whining to rise above and lead and create a positive outlook on an objectively amazing opportunity that 99% of Americans would kill to have. But no, like so many sheltered DMV rich kids I see, she insists on having everything perfectly catered to her snowflake sensibilities.

And THAT is why I put my kids in sports -- to build a competitive spirit, to learn to win and lose gracefully, and to build their ability to stick through undesirably situations. I know that they won't end up like the navel-gazing OP of the thread above since I push them in team sports.

Anonymous wrote:I think OP's argument is not fully baked, but isn't completely wrong, either.

I have a very whiny Gen Z employee who definitely did not ever play sports and definitely has no resilience. Not sure sports would have fixed her issues, though.