Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Exactly. Lafayette is ranked 273 among D1 women's soccer programs. I'm not going to belittle the program or school but I will say that the likelihood of a player making that school as a starter at another club versus being a bench player would have probably been more fun and on top of it, could have resulted in perhaps a "better" soccer program.

In truth, where a kid end up in college is a completely different decision matrix than how good a sport program is. I'm just saying that if this kid was in a similar situation at FCV I fail to see how another local club could not have gotten the same player in Lafayette.

+1

Loudoun 00s

Frostburg State University
Christopher Newport University
Wheaton College (IL)
University of Tampa
University of Lynchburg

01s

Lehigh University
Radford University
Longwood University
East Carolina University
York College (Pennsylvania)
Binghamton University
East Carolina University
Christopher Newport University
James Madison University
Washington and Lee University
University of Mary Washington
Washington College
DeSales University
University of Mary Washington
Washington and Lee University
Wheaton College (IL)
University of Mary Washington
University of Mary Washington
University of Mary Washington
Stetson University

For comparison. Should be eye-opening.

FC Virginia

Official Roster of FCV Girls DA 00/01

Coaches: Christian Cziommer, Bobby Puppione, Marvin Johnson, Michael Berry, Livi Logan-Wood, Zach Roszel, Emma Thomson
# Name Pos FC Virginia Member since Years in Club Grad Year College Commitment
0 Giulia CascaperaGK 2019 1 2019 West Virginia - not really FCV, moved here this year to get WV in state tuition
1 Darrian Burnett GK 2012 6 2019 Virginia Tech - Starter
2 Lauren Teuschl M 2018 1 2020 Pennsylvania - Starter
4 Alexis Theoret M 2010 8 2020 UVA - Starter
6 Ellis Wheeler F 2014 4 2020 Penn State - Starter
7 Nicole Sellers D 2010 8 2020 William & Mary - BFF of DD of W&M Head Coach
9 Sydney Ash D 2013 5 2019 Virginia Tech - Starter
10 Olivia Migli D 2012 6 2020 Duke - Starter
11 Brooke Jones M 2011 7 2019
12 Victoria Powell F 2011 7 2020 Virginia Tech - Starter
13 Riley Melendez GK 2018 1 2020 Towson - Joined from WS DA team this year
16 Kayleigh ShackfordM 2014 4 2019 William and Mary - DD of W&M Head Coach
17 Cassidy Brown D 2009 9 2019 Virginia Tech - Starter
18 Kenna Zier M 2015 3 2020 William & Mary - BFF of DD of W&M Head Coach
20 Victoria Haugen D 2011 7 2020 Virginia Tech - Starter
21 Savannah Berry M 2012 6 2019 Rochester
22 Sarah Philip M 2011 7 2019 West Chester
23 Lauren Sproat M 2011 7 2019 Christopher Newport
24 Kassidy Borden D 2012 6 2020 Navy
46 Madeleine HayesD 2015 3 2019 William & Mary - BFF of DD of W&M Head Coach
50 Kristen Guiney D 2011 7 2019 West Point
99 Carrie McIntire F 2012 6 2020 Wake Forest - Starter

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Exactly. Lafayette is ranked 273 among D1 women's soccer programs. I'm not going to belittle the program or school but I will say that the likelihood of a player making that school as a starter at another club versus being a bench player would have probably been more fun and on top of it, could have resulted in perhaps a "better" soccer program.

In truth, where a kid end up in college is a completely different decision matrix than how good a sport program is. I'm just saying that if this kid was in a similar situation at FCV I fail to see how another local club could not have gotten the same player in Lafayette.

+1

Loudoun 00s

Frostburg State University
Christopher Newport University
Wheaton College (IL)
University of Tampa
University of Lynchburg

01s

Lehigh University
Radford University
Longwood University
East Carolina University
York College (Pennsylvania)
Binghamton University
East Carolina University
Christopher Newport University
James Madison University
Washington and Lee University
University of Mary Washington
Washington College
DeSales University
University of Mary Washington
Washington and Lee University
Wheaton College (IL)
University of Mary Washington
University of Mary Washington
University of Mary Washington
Stetson University

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Exactly. Lafayette is ranked 273 among D1 women's soccer programs. I'm not going to belittle the program or school but I will say that the likelihood of a player making that school as a starter at another club versus being a bench player would have probably been more fun and on top of it, could have resulted in perhaps a "better" soccer program.

In truth, where a kid end up in college is a completely different decision matrix than how good a sport program is. I'm just saying that if this kid was in a similar situation at FCV I fail to see how another local club could not have gotten the same player in Lafayette.

+1

Loudoun 00s

Frostburg State University
Christopher Newport University
Wheaton College (IL)
University of Tampa
University of Lynchburg

01s

Lehigh University
Radford University
Longwood University
East Carolina University
York College (Pennsylvania)
Binghamton University
East Carolina University
Christopher Newport University
James Madison University
Washington and Lee University
University of Mary Washington
Washington College
DeSales University
University of Mary Washington
Washington and Lee University
Wheaton College (IL)
University of Mary Washington
University of Mary Washington
University of Mary Washington
Stetson University

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Exactly. Lafayette is ranked 273 among D1 women's soccer programs. I'm not going to belittle the program or school but I will say that the likelihood of a player making that school as a starter at another club versus being a bench player would have probably been more fun and on top of it, could have resulted in perhaps a "better" soccer program.

In truth, where a kid end up in college is a completely different decision matrix than how good a sport program is. I'm just saying that if this kid was in a similar situation at FCV I fail to see how another local club could not have gotten the same player in Lafayette.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Exactly. Lafayette is ranked 273 among D1 women's soccer programs. I'm not going to belittle the program or school but I will say that the likelihood of a player making that school as a starter at another club versus being a bench player would have probably been more fun and on top of it, could have resulted in perhaps a "better" soccer program.

In truth, where a kid end up in college is a completely different decision matrix than how good a sport program is. I'm just saying that if this kid was in a similar situation at FCV I fail to see how another local club could not have gotten the same player in Lafayette.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Exactly. Lafayette is ranked 273 among D1 women's soccer programs. I'm not going to belittle the program or school but I will say that the likelihood of a player making that school as a starter at another club versus being a bench player would have probably been more fun and on top of it, could have resulted in perhaps a "better" soccer program.

In truth, where a kid end up in college is a completely different decision matrix than how good a sport program is. I'm just saying that if this kid was in a similar situation at FCV I fail to see how another local club could not have gotten the same player in Lafayette.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Yeah it seems at Penn Fusion for the class of 2020 after the starting 11 you are talking about a few FIU, Lehigh and Lafayette type D1s and then D2s and D3s.

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People’s life choices are their own.

Before the game does she just head straight to pinkie pile while the starting roster is called out or does she still stand in the circle with hope in her eyes?

You’re a special kind of jerk. The special kind that insults children to feel better about themselves. You must be a joy to your team’s other parents. Just pathetic.

I’m just saying she must really enjoy it. You and her chose to be at a place where she is a sub. How can that possibly be an insult if she loves it as much as you claim?

The training must really be amazing and fun to enjoy watching their teammates play in the games.

why do you feel the need to keep going at him? How does what his kid do affect you in any way? Its pathetic man. It really is.

What team and what age does your kid play at?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People’s life choices are their own.

Before the game does she just head straight to pinkie pile while the starting roster is called out or does she still stand in the circle with hope in her eyes?

You’re a special kind of jerk. The special kind that insults children to feel better about themselves. You must be a joy to your team’s other parents. Just pathetic.

I’m just saying she must really enjoy it. You and her chose to be at a place where she is a sub. How can that possibly be an insult if she loves it as much as you claim?

The training must really be amazing and fun to enjoy watching their teammates play in the games.

It is amazing that you know what team my daughter is on and how many games she plays. No wonder you know everything about everything

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People’s life choices are their own.

Before the game does she just head straight to pinkie pile while the starting roster is called out or does she still stand in the circle with hope in her eyes?

You’re a special kind of jerk. The special kind that insults children to feel better about themselves. You must be a joy to your team’s other parents. Just pathetic.

I’m just saying she must really enjoy it. You and her chose to be at a place where she is a sub. How can that possibly be an insult if she loves it as much as you claim?

The training must really be amazing and fun to enjoy watching their teammates play in the games.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People’s life choices are their own.

Before the game does she just head straight to pinkie pile while the starting roster is called out or does she still stand in the circle with hope in her eyes?

You’re a special kind of jerk. The special kind that insults children to feel better about themselves. You must be a joy to your team’s other parents. Just pathetic.

I’m just saying she must really enjoy it. You and her chose to be at a place where she is a sub. How can that possibly be an insult if she loves it as much as you claim?

The training must really be amazing and fun to enjoy watching their teammates play in the games.