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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

Bruh, you are still here with that nonsense about zero D1 coaches at Jeff Cup? It was a recruiting dead period this time around. Gonna be plenty D1 players from the clubs at the Jeff Cup watching tape of target players. Keep on trippin'. Also, why don't you get off your hiney and step forward and coach rather than just bashing all the time. Get a life.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Enjoy VMI. Did you really need FCV to MAKE this happen for your kid? NOPE

My kid is not going to VMI. However, I would never look down on any kid who is. Go stand in the mirror and stare at your reflection. It may help

This VMI topic came up from a brag / marketing post from FCV... fair game to critique.

No it didn’t. It came up as a college commitment announcement. I follow their page. They also announce D3 and D2 commitments.

While much of their page is pure marketing for the purpose of recruitment and keeping their pool together, I consider this hands off.

As far as VMI, no they don’t have a great program. But the school is respected and a free education is worth the hardship for some. Not all....but some.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Enjoy VMI. Did you really need FCV to MAKE this happen for your kid? NOPE

My kid is not going to VMI. However, I would never look down on any kid who is. Go stand in the mirror and stare at your reflection. It may help

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Enjoy VMI. Did you really need FCV to MAKE this happen for your kid? NOPE

My kid is not going to VMI. However, I would never look down on any kid who is. Go stand in the mirror and stare at your reflection. It may help

This VMI topic came up from a brag / marketing post from FCV... fair game to critique.

No it didn’t. It came up as a college commitment announcement. I follow their page. They also announce D3 and D2 commitments.

While much of their page is pure marketing for the purpose of recruitment and keeping their pool together, I consider this hands off.

As far as VMI, no they don’t have a great program. But the school is respected and a free education is worth the hardship for some. Not all....but some.

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Anonymous wrote:I was only talking about girls. Boys side has some completely funded academy teams.

The girls side is a country club. Argue all you want but it is. Top girls soccer is for families with the funds to buy it and if you can't see the obvious dozens and dozens and dozens of articles from a variety of organizations examining the reality of youth soccer and other sports say the exactly same thing with lots of data to back it up.

Fair enough. I know nothing about girls teams - so you may well be correct.

Ummm. Since the thread is about a soccer league for girls, why would anyone be posting about boys soccer in here?

Discussion had diverged from the orignal topic by this point don't you think? And it was pretty clear I was talking about boys since I mentioned DCU.

The thread is called GA showcase. Do you have anything?

Thread nazi alert.

Boys and girls high end soccer are very different. It really it is not useful to post about the boys side because it is not relevant to what is available on the girls side. Be glad you have real funded academies on the boys side. Does not and never will exist for girls.

Good, because it’s an absolute waste of time. Can always go to Europe.

No one is going to Europe. These kids are high school students and are going to college and grad school after dropping thousands to play meh soccer in our so-called top leagues.

Again - how do you know no-one is going to Europe? All you know is that your kid is not going. Maybe you know about her teammates. But you are 100% wrong when you say "no-one". Some kids will go to Europe. Of course it's not going to be a lot of kids. But nor is it none. And the number is growing.

A player going to Europe changes nothing at all about the nature of high end girls soccer leagues here.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Enjoy VMI. Did you really need FCV to MAKE this happen for your kid? NOPE

My kid is not going to VMI. However, I would never look down on any kid who is. Go stand in the mirror and stare at your reflection. It may help

This VMI topic came up from a brag / marketing post from FCV... fair game to critique.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Enjoy VMI. Did you really need FCV to MAKE this happen for your kid? NOPE

My kid is not going to VMI. However, I would never look down on any kid who is. Go stand in the mirror and stare at your reflection. It may help

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Enjoy VMI. Did you really need FCV to MAKE this happen for your kid? NOPE

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

And you’re missing the point. We don’t care. We use it to serve us. Get it?

WE make it work for US

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

How can Jeff cup be a top notch tourney if ZERO D1 college coaches attend? It's not. Even if you say it is - it's not. It's pathetic to spend any money to go. There are not any good GA squads in our area. FCV did NOT show well at all in any age group at the GA showcase. You can google this as a fact. Most of the kids going to Europe will be boys. Rarely if any girls will get offers to go to Europe.

I do agree with you on your last point. Way too much social media, way to much marketing. Not nearly enough - get down to the basis training going on in this area. Bobby seems to have ruined any chance for FCV to be a destination club. The training is second on his list of things to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread back on track or start a new thread.

This thread started off bashing the Jeff Cup and the teams that participate in it. Two negatives. There was nowhere to go but into the gutter when someone starts a thread like this. Here are that facts. There are still some good GA squads out there. Jeff Cup is still a top notch tournament. Some (very few, but some) kids from DMV will go to Europe and play pro. There are too many leagues and too many Uber travel teams and too many meaningless alliances in the DMV, but that is life. Clubs spend more team dealing with charity events, mergers and alliances, moving leagues, marketing the next big thing, etc. instead of focusing on training their coaches to be great teachers and role models. But despite all of this, the kids still have fun, get exercise, and learn about competition and life.

Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself. I am part of the parent delegation and am capable of casting a critical eye on the activities my kids are involved with. Girls soccer is not perfect. My kids play it but that does mean I am blind to the flaws.