Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We know that no one who supposedly knew about this never reported a thing.
Why wait until 30 days before a heated election?
That's not even enough time for an investigation.
Something fishy about that.
Dude he admitted to everything except the 14 year old saying that he always got permission from the teenagers moms before dating them.
He admitted to knowing at least two of them. He won't say it didn't happen just, "I don't recall" and "I dated a lot of young women"
Exactly. So what's going on here is liberals don't like that an older man dated women of legal dating age, and asked their mothers for permission? 38 years ago? How many men in Hollywood are married to much younger women? It doesn't matter if you think it's skeevy, even for 38 years ago. What matter is if it's LEGAL. Timeframe and location matter, as do norms sat the time of the alleged 'crime'.
Is there any concrete proof, aside from 'word of mouth' that Moore knew the 14 year old was actually 14, not 16? And didn't he ask her mother as well? And if so, why did they not say "she's only 14?" and if they said they did, where is the concrete proof of that?
1. He told her mother he would watch her daughter while the mother went into the hearing. Does that sound like he didn't realize she was a minor?
2. I grew up in the 70's and a 32 year old hittting on a teenager would have been considered gross and inappropriate.
3. Would you be fine with a 30 something year old dating your 16 year old (much less your 14 year old)?
1) Let's start with the fact that this is a one-sided accusation and that's what the mother SAYS happened. I would imagine the mother was expressing concern about leaving her daughter outside in a hallway while she went through court hearings, and he was answering that concern.
2) I am 56. Graduated in '79 up north. This was not unusual even up there, though northerners DID raise their eyebrows at it more. The south is a different place
3) If my daughter was of legal age, what I thought would only matter on a moral level, not a legal level. The problem here is that in order to make the accusations fit, it HAS to hinge on Moore KNOWING this girl was 14. I have no concrete proof that is true. And I don't believe in destroying ANYONE without concrete proof.
The proof is that he didn't come to the front door to "court" her. He had her sneak out behind her mother's back.
That is what you are being told. Perhaps she did that because she told him she was 16 and her mother KNEW she was only 14 and she didn't want to be stopped. Perhaps that's not what happened at all. There are plenty of teenagers that have lied about their age and snuck out of their homes.
Again, you don't KNOW what the truth is. You only know what they are SAYING is true. If this were any democratic candidate, you would be destroying this woman! In fact, it's been done....
Sorry you don't believe women. You are the very reason we don't speak up when harassed and molested.
I don't believe women all the time, no. There was just a woman in NY who claimed to have been harassed by men who lied and pled guilty. She lied because she didn't want her parents to find out what she was really up to. There was a woman who lied about being raped in college and the man was expelled and his name was trashed. There was a MAN in Atlanta blamed for a bombing who was actually a hero. There was another woman who lied and trashed the reputations a bunch of Lacrosse players at Duke.
That has nothing to do with women who have been molested and everything to do with the fact that yes, some women lie.
Anonymous wrote:fwiw I was reading comments on nyt and wsj and a few southerners have said a 32yo guy caught with a 14yo in any capacity would have been lynched in Alabama.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rootin Tootin Roy better hope no more women start coming out or he will be in even deeper trouble. This guy is the Harvey Weinstein of Alabama politics. Maybe a quick trip to outpatient rehab can cure him too!
He absolutely knows more women are out there in the wings -- why do you think there's been such a ferocious pushback on this story this week? They're trying to intimidate the others into silence.
Here was a very curious paragraph in the Post story:
“According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.”
What that suggests is the Post found -- but could not report because they would not go on record -- softball players, YMCA users and mall visitors who were accosted by him.
All this is supposition on your part. And the rest is simply gossip.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rootin Tootin Roy better hope no more women start coming out or he will be in even deeper trouble. This guy is the Harvey Weinstein of Alabama politics. Maybe a quick trip to outpatient rehab can cure him too!
He absolutely knows more women are out there in the wings -- why do you think there's been such a ferocious pushback on this story this week? They're trying to intimidate the others into silence.
Here was a very curious paragraph in the Post story:
“According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.”
What that suggests is the Post found -- but could not report because they would not go on record -- softball players, YMCA users and mall visitors who were accosted by him.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:fwiw I was reading comments on nyt and wsj and a few southerners have said a 32yo guy caught with a 14yo in any capacity would have been lynched in Alabama.
As for the other women, the age of consent was 16, so he was within his rights to date 16 17 18 yo women while looking for a wife.
Vote for me because I was within my rights.
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But the 3 other teens don't allege anything sexual. So he only got perverted with the 14yo? I'd think a pedophile would try to go after any teen he lured to his house.
Anonymous wrote:Liberals don't subscribe to this line of reasoning. They want be able to accuse anyone of anything and have it stick.
Like your batshit crazy right-wing Comet Pizza stories?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:fwiw I was reading comments on nyt and wsj and a few southerners have said a 32yo guy caught with a 14yo in any capacity would have been lynched in Alabama.
As for the other women, the age of consent was 16, so he was within his rights to date 16 17 18 yo women while looking for a wife.
Vote for me because I was within my rights.
Paid for by Moore for Senate
Anonymous wrote:fwiw I was reading comments on nyt and wsj and a few southerners have said a 32yo guy caught with a 14yo in any capacity would have been lynched in Alabama.
As for the other women, the age of consent was 16, so he was within his rights to date 16 17 18 yo women while looking for a wife.
Liberals don't subscribe to this line of reasoning. They want be able to accuse anyone of anything and have it stick.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never thought I’d express Agreement with Mitt, but he’s right. Innocent until proven guilty is the standard for a criminal proceeding, not an election.
Appalling. Truly. Innocent until proven guilty is a foundation of this country, one of our most fundamental rights. Without that premise, anyone can accuse someone of anything for any reason, and it could be life-changing.
Liberals don't subscribe to this line of reasoning. They want be able to accuse anyone of anything and have it stick.
Anonymous wrote:A successful man pursuing young women might not be a pedophile, but I'd bet he had some arrested development issues he was working out. Did he go to an all boys high school then to West Point (which was all male at the time)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never thought I’d express Agreement with Mitt, but he’s right. Innocent until proven guilty is the standard for a criminal proceeding, not an election.
Appalling. Truly. Innocent until proven guilty is a foundation of this country, one of our most fundamental rights. Without that premise, anyone can accuse someone of anything for any reason, and it could be life-changing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wonder if there were 77 plus pages on Wiener's sexting a teenager?
Wonder if there were 77 plus pages on Menendez' sex with DR teens?
Not one person I can think of defended Wiener. Not one.
I don't remember too much about the Menendez case. He was indicted for corruption and good riddance.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/454066.page
If everyone agreed that a man who preys on young girls should not become a US senator we would not have this long thread.
The world saw the evidence on Wiener, Bozo.
I'd like something on Moore, beyond the hateful WaPo.
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#roymoore As a Deputy DA in Gadsden when Roy Moore was there, it was common knowledge about Roy’s propensity for teenage girls. I’m appalled that these women are being skewered for the truth.#MorningJoe #FoxNews
Ohhh, a Twitter post! Well, that makes it all so real!
I think you just don't believe women.
I am a woman. I believe in fact, not feelings.