Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the repeated references to the high cost of living. Students' families--including the posters here--experience the same cost of living.
This! And many of us make less than DCPS teachers.
I don’t understand these arguments. Is it woe is me I make so little no one else should make more than me? Like why shouldn’t we want everyone to be well compensated?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a first year mcps teacher and I make $60k. If I were single this would be unlivable.
No, not unlikeable. 60k as a first year teacher??? You'd do what lots of people in their 20s do -- get a roommate or two, pack your lunch, etc. This is normal for a young professional starting out. You make more than many people starting out other professions that require the same (or sometimes more) education, including library sciences, marketing/communications, etc.
But since you are apparently in a relationship where you cohabitate, you are in an even better situation and get to skip the roommates. Good for you.
Anonymous wrote:There are several threads on this forum from parents, who do not want their child to become a teacher. Guess why???
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1186492.page
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
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This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Yup. I have 20 years experience and am in a senior role at my large nonprofit and make $126. We have had some lovely, lovely teachers and assistants when my kids were at a title 1 elementary, and I was generous with the gifts. But I no longer go overboard or give gifts to individual teachers in middle and hs. They are professionals!
A 20 year teacher with a masters makes 112. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
I don't think I can put into words how maddening this thread is
How much do you think that other nonprofit professionals with 20 years of experience and a master's make, and who have similar benefits (except for the summar breaks, week at Christmas and Easter)? Who also have huge drawbacks in their work (which are hard to describe, relatively, because most of us can imagine what it's like to be in a classroom)?
Yes!! AND no pension.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
By
This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Yup. I have 20 years experience and am in a senior role at my large nonprofit and make $126. We have had some lovely, lovely teachers and assistants when my kids were at a title 1 elementary, and I was generous with the gifts. But I no longer go overboard or give gifts to individual teachers in middle and hs. They are professionals!
A 20 year teacher with a masters makes 112. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
I don't think I can put into words how maddening this thread is
How much do you think that other nonprofit professionals with 20 years of experience and a master's make, and who have similar benefits (except for the summar breaks, week at Christmas and Easter)? Who also have huge drawbacks in their work (which are hard to describe, relatively, because most of us can imagine what it's like to be in a classroom)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher who feels adequately compensated.
Yesterday I fixed a toilet, picked up trash outside of my school, swept my classroom, provided my own paper and toner, ran a club during my lunch ‘break,’ contacted 15 parents, graded 100+ papers, and taught the children.
My school does not have enough teachers and for several years in a row multiple teachers have had to absorb kids from other groups.
We could be paid less if DC punished children more. The only thing keeping me in a place where I’ve been punched is $$.
+1 Fellow teacher who "fixes" the toilet daily, buys most of my own supplies, has been hit by children, gotten lice from comforting them, and is home sick today from contacting their viruses.
Anonymous wrote:I’m a first year mcps teacher and I make $60k. If I were single this would be unlivable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
Yes, but most jobs you think of as “teacher” are 10 month positions. The $146k is for 12 month positions.
Wrong. The $146k is for an ET15, which is a 10 month job.
I’m sorry, I’m just not seeing the same thing you’re seeing. When I look at page 4 I see FY2023 ET-15 salaries. There are three tables on this page all for ET-15s but at different month employments. I’m looking at the bottom right corner which is the Masters+60/PhD and 21+ years experience box.
10 month - $131,003
11 month - $144,103
12 month - $146,689
Could you please explain what I’m understanding wrong?
I think the 12 month salaries are contracted for when DCPS had extended school year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
Yes, but most jobs you think of as “teacher” are 10 month positions. The $146k is for 12 month positions.
Wrong. The $146k is for an ET15, which is a 10 month job.
I’m sorry, I’m just not seeing the same thing you’re seeing. When I look at page 4 I see FY2023 ET-15 salaries. There are three tables on this page all for ET-15s but at different month employments. I’m looking at the bottom right corner which is the Masters+60/PhD and 21+ years experience box.
10 month - $131,003
11 month - $144,103
12 month - $146,689
Could you please explain what I’m understanding wrong?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can see the max salary of a 10 month teacher is $131k. I’m not sure most teachers are on the PhD scale.
Also, what 3 months don’t teachers work? 😂
The max teacher salary is $146k
https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
Yes, but most jobs you think of as “teacher” are 10 month positions. The $146k is for 12 month positions.
Wrong. The $146k is for an ET15, which is a 10 month job.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
By
This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Yup. I have 20 years experience and am in a senior role at my large nonprofit and make $126. We have had some lovely, lovely teachers and assistants when my kids were at a title 1 elementary, and I was generous with the gifts. But I no longer go overboard or give gifts to individual teachers in middle and hs. They are professionals!
A 20 year teacher with a masters makes 112. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
I don't think I can put into words how maddening this thread is
How much do you think that other nonprofit professionals with 20 years of experience and a master's make, and who have similar benefits (except for the summar breaks, week at Christmas and Easter)? Who also have huge drawbacks in their work (which are hard to describe, relatively, because most of us can imagine what it's like to be in a classroom)?
And how much do they think college professors make? Elementary school art teachers in DCPS make more than art professors in universities.
Looking at some local schools... college professors make more than elementary art teachers. At GW, the average professor in the college of arts and sciences makes about $160K. In the college of business and school of public health, it's over $200K.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the repeated references to the high cost of living. Students' families--including the posters here--experience the same cost of living.
This! And many of us make less than DCPS teachers.