Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 16:31     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was very disturbed that the daughter was sentenced to a lengthy prison term. She really was held hostage.
Yeah, I felt really conflicted about that. She never had a chance. And that scene where she was talking to her dad, telling him that she didn't blame him. I was thinking to myself that's she more gracious than me because I do think he holds a lot of responsibility for not protecting and being present.


I thought the same thing, but then read an article that went into more detail about the father. Apparently, when the father would try to visit, the mother would find some reason to deny the visits or would insist on being with her during the whole visit for "medical reasons." The mother would also use the "medical reasons" as a way to intimidate the father into backing off. Not to mention that the mother moved further and further away as Gypsy got older and might be able to blow her cover.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2017 06:37     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watched it. Totally fucked up but I don't think it wasn't done that well. They definitely needed to go into the mother's mental state more and be more investigative about what she was doing when she was alive. Maybe I am too obsessed with true crime podcats, but there is a lot more material there!


I was really looking forward to this, and was disappointed. HBO has been on our chopping block, but we decided to go another month in part because of this doc. It was too short, considering the material, and I really wanted to hear more about the deception and probable munchausen, rather than the play by play of the murder. It seemed like they missed the interesting plot point. They should have made a doc about a woman who abused her daughter by faking illnesses, etc and did so for so long and so severely that the daughter eventually murdered her. Instead the movie was about the murder of a woman who happened to have done that stuff. Missed the mark, imo.


There's a BuzzFeed article that did just that. The reporter was interviewed during the film.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2017 21:36     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Anonymous wrote:Watched it. Totally fucked up but I don't think it wasn't done that well. They definitely needed to go into the mother's mental state more and be more investigative about what she was doing when she was alive. Maybe I am too obsessed with true crime podcats, but there is a lot more material there!


I was really looking forward to this, and was disappointed. HBO has been on our chopping block, but we decided to go another month in part because of this doc. It was too short, considering the material, and I really wanted to hear more about the deception and probable munchausen, rather than the play by play of the murder. It seemed like they missed the interesting plot point. They should have made a doc about a woman who abused her daughter by faking illnesses, etc and did so for so long and so severely that the daughter eventually murdered her. Instead the movie was about the murder of a woman who happened to have done that stuff. Missed the mark, imo.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 18:51     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was very disturbed that the daughter was sentenced to a lengthy prison term. She really was held hostage.
Yeah, I felt really conflicted about that. She never had a chance. And that scene where she was talking to her dad, telling him that she didn't blame him. I was thinking to myself that's she more gracious than me because I do think he holds a lot of responsibility for not protecting and being present.


Huh. I didn't think that 10 years with the possibility of parole at 8 years was that bad for pre-meditated murder.

I was skeptical about the conversation she had with her father since I do think it's a possibility she's been trained to be a master manipulator.


How has she been trained to be a master manipulator?

She's been force fed mind altering drugs for twenty years.

She lost all her teeth

She had a feeding tube implanted in her abdomen without cause.

Her head was kept shaved.

This woman was basically medically experimented on. She couldn't leave, she couldn't call the police because her mother had the option of explaining away anything the daughter said as the daughter being "retarded" or "crazy." I can't imagine what locking up the daughter does -- she's not going to kill again.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 15:02     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was very disturbed that the daughter was sentenced to a lengthy prison term. She really was held hostage.
Yeah, I felt really conflicted about that. She never had a chance. And that scene where she was talking to her dad, telling him that she didn't blame him. I was thinking to myself that's she more gracious than me because I do think he holds a lot of responsibility for not protecting and being present.


Huh. I didn't think that 10 years with the possibility of parole at 8 years was that bad for pre-meditated murder.

I was skeptical about the conversation she had with her father since I do think it's a possibility she's been trained to be a master manipulator.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 14:56     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Anonymous wrote:I was very disturbed that the daughter was sentenced to a lengthy prison term. She really was held hostage.
Yeah, I felt really conflicted about that. She never had a chance. And that scene where she was talking to her dad, telling him that she didn't blame him. I was thinking to myself that's she more gracious than me because I do think he holds a lot of responsibility for not protecting and being present.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 14:49     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
I was very disturbed that the daughter was sentenced to a lengthy prison term. She really was held hostage.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 12:26     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Gypsy Rose? For realz???
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 12:24     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
^^ Which podcast do you recommend? I love true crime stuff on TV but haven't gotten into podcasts yet.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 12:17     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Watched it. Totally fucked up but I don't think it wasn't done that well. They definitely needed to go into the mother's mental state more and be more investigative about what she was doing when she was alive. Maybe I am too obsessed with true crime podcats, but there is a lot more material there!
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 12:03     Subject: Re:Mommy Dead and Dearest
Yes, I watched this. I actually posted about it last month. http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/635274.page#10739478


It's very disturbing to me how the mother was able to manipulate the medical profession into providing all these medications and procedures like having a feeding tube installed, etc. I wish they had gotten more into the mother and her background, because that was on F'd up lady. Her parents were, ummm... interesting?

Anonymous
Post 05/19/2017 09:22     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
I usually have a pretty strong stomach for such subject matter but this one is next level messed up. Really twisted.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 22:50     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
Just saw it. Literally what the F.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 22:30     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
No but I will. I love crazy shit. Makes my family seem normal.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 20:01     Subject: Mommy Dead and Dearest
A 23-year-old woman, who was forced to pretend to be disabled from childhood, ordered her mother to be stabbed to death before announcing on Facebook “the b**** is dead.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-b-dead-apos-daughter-182133954.html?utm_content=fb-boost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=editboost

Did anyone else watch this on HBO?

What. The actual. Hell.

I did think it was a nice touch to release it over Mother's Day weekend.