Anonymous
10/21/2016 17:49
Subject: Re:Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make those decisions for herself. But if you're pro-life and believe abortion is murder, there's no principled way to excuse rape victims. We wouldn't legally condone a rape victim hunting down and killing her rapist, so we certainly can't condone her murdering the baby who committed no crime against her at all.
Yes, there is. Usually making absolutes about other people's ideas is a bad idea.
Then please explain what makes murder of an innocent person acceptable.
When the law doesn't consider it a "person?"
Anonymous
10/21/2016 17:43
Subject: Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are all your thoughts on rape victims getting pregnant. Is it fair to expect the person to keep the baby?
When my kids would complain to me about not getting things their way at times they liked to use these words;"that's not fair! I would tell them that one of the first lessons they needed to learn about life is that, it's not fair. Think about it. How many things can we expect to be fair? It reminds me of something on a more funny note.I learned how to drive in Az and there was a question about what we should do if pedestrian jay walk. The right answer was actually;don't run them over because two wrongs don't make a right. On a more serious note it's the same for a rape victim. Two wrongs don't make a right. And consider if it's fair to punish a dear little baby for the act of a cruel man? I chose to see it a different way; a woman who has been raped can turn a very hurtful and painful act into an amazing and beautiful story. A happy ending for a rough beginning. I know people who were conceived by rape and they are amazing. Instead of letting circumstances control us we have the power to do great things with of them.
Thank goodness, for all, that you're not making the decisions. That you liken rape to jaywalking says something about you. And, it's not good.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 17:41
Subject: Re:Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make those decisions for herself. But if you're pro-life and believe abortion is murder, there's no principled way to excuse rape victims. We wouldn't legally condone a rape victim hunting down and killing her rapist, so we certainly can't condone her murdering the baby who committed no crime against her at all.
Yes, there is. Usually making absolutes about other people's ideas is a bad idea.
Then please explain what makes murder of an innocent person acceptable.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 17:29
Subject: Re:Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make those decisions for herself. But if you're pro-life and believe abortion is murder, there's no principled way to excuse rape victims. We wouldn't legally condone a rape victim hunting down and killing her rapist, so we certainly can't condone her murdering the baby who committed no crime against her at all.
Yes, there is. Usually making absolutes about other people's ideas is a bad idea.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 17:13
Subject: Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:What are all your thoughts on rape victims getting pregnant. Is it fair to expect the person to keep the baby?
When my kids would complain to me about not getting things their way at times they liked to use these words;"that's not fair! I would tell them that one of the first lessons they needed to learn about life is that, it's not fair. Think about it. How many things can we expect to be fair? It reminds me of something on a more funny note.I learned how to drive in Az and there was a question about what we should do if pedestrian jay walk. The right answer was actually;don't run them over because two wrongs don't make a right. On a more serious note it's the same for a rape victim. Two wrongs don't make a right. And consider if it's fair to punish a dear little baby for the act of a cruel man? I chose to see it a different way; a woman who has been raped can turn a very hurtful and painful act into an amazing and beautiful story. A happy ending for a rough beginning. I know people who were conceived by rape and they are amazing. Instead of letting circumstances control us we have the power to do great things with of them.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 09:01
Subject: Rape and Abortion
We just did this here: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/591897.page
Anonymous
10/21/2016 08:55
Subject: Re:Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make those decisions for herself. But if you're pro-life and believe abortion is murder, there's no principled way to excuse rape victims. We wouldn't legally condone a rape victim hunting down and killing her rapist, so we certainly can't condone her murdering the baby who committed no crime against her at all.
Agreed. It seems like the logical way to think about it if you're pro-life.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 08:42
Subject: Rape and Abortion
Of course not. She should not wait till full-term to make up her mind either. Eyeroll x1000
Anonymous
10/21/2016 07:38
Subject: Re:Rape and Abortion
I'm pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make those decisions for herself. But if you're pro-life and believe abortion is murder, there's no principled way to excuse rape victims. We wouldn't legally condone a rape victim hunting down and killing her rapist, so we certainly can't condone her murdering the baby who committed no crime against her at all.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 07:38
Subject: Rape and Abortion
Anonymous wrote:Abortion should be limited ti first try master only After 12 weeks it should be banned.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 07:35
Subject: Rape and Abortion
Abortion should be limited ti first try master only After 12 weeks it should be banned.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 07:07
Subject: Re:Rape and Abortion
I am pro-choice so I say have the abortion if you want one and are within the legal limit. But if you are pro-life and truly believe abortion is murder, I don't understand why you would support an exception for rape, incest, or anything else. Murder is murder. (I don't believe abortion is murder until the fetus is viable outside the womb, so I don't have a problem with abortion before, say, 24 weeks, and even after that I might make an exception just like there are times that killing another person is excusable, such as self-defense.)
Anonymous
10/21/2016 07:03
Subject: Rape and Abortion
Why would it be anyone else's business other than the rape victim's?
Anonymous
10/21/2016 06:58
Subject: Rape and Abortion
No. It's like raping the woman again and again every time she thinks of what's developing inside her.
Anonymous
10/21/2016 06:53
Subject: Rape and Abortion
What are all your thoughts on rape victims getting pregnant. Is it fair to expect the person to keep the baby?