Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:54     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:Ok what is your better solution

Not OP, my better solution is to have more SROs walking the halls, including female ones to go into the bathrooms and check.

Propping the doors will do nothing. The kid could squat on the toilet so their feet can't be seen. They vape into their shirts so there is limited vapors. You need bodies inside to monitor and check.

My DC told me that the security guards will stand outside the bathrooms and say to go to class, then walk away without even checking if the kid is going to class. What will getting more security guards do if their version of "checking" is just walking away without actually checking?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:52     Subject: Re:Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Some of this is a little over the top. If you securitize schools, don't be surprised if students behave like prisoners. This is well documented in scientific literature, which those who run schools care not to read.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:25     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it have to do with trans children? Monitoring already happens. No one is talking about cameras.


They are talking about cameras outside of the bathrooms to monitor who is going in and when, but not inside the bathrooms, which would obviously come with gross privacy violations and wouldn't move forward.


There are hallway cameras in schools now.


It's not the same in all schools and the cameras aren't specifically positioned to capture bathroom traffic. Arlington Public Schools is tweaking and optimizing its video surveillance for this exact same reason:

After a meeting with principals, the school system is also reviewing some of its security measures, specifically regarding cameras.

Board Vice Chair Cristina Diaz-Torres said she’s been told cameras in some schools have blind spots, “and so students are engaging in reckless behavior, in exchanges and in sales, or in acts of aggression and physical violence, where they know that the cameras are not looking.”

County officials started visiting schools last week to review camera placement and positioning and are working with school staff to see whether additional cameras need to be purchased, John Mayo, the school system’s chief operating officer, said.


https://wtop.com/arlington/2023/02/arlington-schools-considering-security-communication-changes-after-apparent-overdose/
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:18     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it have to do with trans children? Monitoring already happens. No one is talking about cameras.


They are talking about cameras outside of the bathrooms to monitor who is going in and when, but not inside the bathrooms, which would obviously come with gross privacy violations and wouldn't move forward.


There are hallway cameras in schools now.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:16     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Why won't they fund the POO Patrol!?!
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:16     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
I feel sorry for the girls. I have very easy menstrual cycles now, but they were sometimes brutal during HS. I would have been mortified.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:15     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:What does it have to do with trans children? Monitoring already happens. No one is talking about cameras.


They are talking about cameras outside of the bathrooms to monitor who is going in and when, but not inside the bathrooms, which would obviously come with gross privacy violations and wouldn't move forward.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:13     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
What does it have to do with trans children? Monitoring already happens. No one is talking about cameras.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:11     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok what is your better solution
if you think monitoring bathrooms is fine why not homes?


What? Because bathrooms are MCPS property and it’s their obligation or oversee children there, unlike at their homes.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:10     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:Over vaping. One day they’ll stick cameras in bathrooms. If they did this over trans issues there would be outrage https://mocoshow.com/blog/mcps-student-restroom-monitoring-plan/


That’s because if they did this to monitor the comings and goings of trans kids it would be discrimination. This is just completely different. Visual monitoring to make sure kids aren’t overdosing and dying sounds great to me.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 15:57     Subject: Re:Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
There is nothing exciting here and it has nothing to do with trans issue. When I was in high school in 1995 the doors were also propped open and teachers would enter the bathrooms to make sure no one was smoking or being bullied, which is exactly what MCSP is doing. Not sure why they weren't doing it before.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 15:56     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:Ok what is your better solution
if you think monitoring bathrooms is fine why not homes?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 15:56     Subject: Re:Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
There's already a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1112711.page

And it's not just "over vaping." It's largely being driven by fentanyl overdoses and kids are dying from it.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 15:56     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Ok what is your better solution
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 15:54     Subject: Mcps to monitor school bathrooms
Over vaping. One day they’ll stick cameras in bathrooms. If they did this over trans issues there would be outrage https://mocoshow.com/blog/mcps-student-restroom-monitoring-plan/