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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...[/quote]

Shall we bring up all the rankings where Michigan beats UVA? Like. in. every. single. one. This discussion is about school rankings, specifically at USNWR.  [/quote]

List of schools ranked by number of graduate programs ranked in the top 10, which shows the clear UVA advantage over Michigan . . . oops

Public and Private Universities With the Most Top 10 Graduate Schools, Programs and Specialties in the New 2023-24 U.S. News Rankings

Rank	University	Number of Top 10 Rankings
1	University of Michigan–Ann Arbor	59
1	University of California, Berkeley	59
3	Stanford University	56
4	Massachusetts Institute of Technology	52
5	Harvard University	45
6	Columbia University	41
7	University of Texas at Austin	38
8	Princeton University	31
9	University of California–Los Angeles	29
10	University of Chicago	28
11	University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign	27
12	University of Pennsylvania	26
13	Duke University	25
13	California Institute of Technology	25
15	New York University	24
15	University of Washington	24[/quote]

The above illustrates what truly separates Berkeley and Michigan from the rest of our nation’s public universities.  [/quote]

We shouldn't get [u]too[/u] carried away though. Michigan isn't UVA but it also isn't Berkeley.[/quote]

In this metric, Michigan = Berkeley.
UVA isn't even on the list.

What was your point?[/quote]

Other lists have Berkeley as the SOLE number one (for most top 10 graduate programs) way above all others including number of Nobel laureates.[/quote]

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