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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Defense fund has almost hit 2 million![/quote]

Great news!   I'm glad people are coming out in droves to show their support.   Notable on the list of donors are Vivek Ramaswamy and Kid Rock.[/quote]

It's quite telling about the mindset of people who support Penny's actions when you look at who they're aligning themselves with...[/quote]

What's telling is that moderates and liberals, who are very split on Penny's actions, are willing to say so anonymously (both here on DCUM and in many other places) but aren't willing to put their names out there in support of Penny.  [/quote]

I am split on what he did - that means I do not support his actions. It’s the opposite of split, it’s the only cohesive way to see this for me. Jordan Neely should still be alive. I also do not believe Daniel Penny intended to kill him. I also do not believe it’s innately protective of white supremacy to want to take the g.d. Metro or subway without having a rational fear of being accosted and attacked. That last part is something that is not in my view adequately captured by either statistics or anecdotes: I first started taking the subway in the very early 90s, pre-Giuliani, when crime was higher. However, running into deeply unstable individuals was far, far rarer - group bad acts related to gang and similar activity spurred a lot of crime then.

Now, however, we’ve had the time to see the impact of the hollowing out of social services, the raising of requirements on what it takes to involuntarily commit someone, and what happens when street pharma gets more and more dangerous (meth, fent, laced marijuana). From what I understand, many addicts we may see cannot in any meaningful way ‘get better.’ The neural pathways are just destroyed. So absent that, we’ve got to think of involuntary commitment that’s actually humane and doesn’t future degrade people, and there’s no push for that. Maybe this will lead to some kind of granular activism for that. I don’t know. [/quote]

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