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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is so sad. I really feel for the police officers that stopped them. I do really think they were doing their best to assess the situation and it can be so difficult because dv victims have been manipulated and made to feel like the problem so deeply that they can be very convincing. And it’s also really hard for even well meaning men not to connect and collude with men who in fact are often abusers as you see the police officers doing in the video multiple times (both talk about their wives or ex wives having anxiety. Anyway they seemed like they cared about their job and were trying to do the best they could and are human like all of us and now I’m sure are feeling guilt about this. It seemed like one of the officers was new on the job and being trained. Ugh. It would be great if men would stop.killing.women. Uggh [/quote]

The did everything they could possibly do.  They took her aside.  They were so kind to her. They offered her options.  But, they couldn’t force her to stay away from him.  I’m sure they are second guessing everything.  I feel so bad for them. [/quote]

Pp here, exactly I totally agree. I feel terribly that they will carry this guilt when it did seem like they genuinely tried to do their best - like you said separating her and trying to determine what happened. And like you said there was no evidence to separate them further than they did. In discussing the colluding etc, I didn’t mean that in a negative fashion to them- it happened to most of us watching the video if you read this thread. Abusers are so good at appearing harmless. Just meant they were in such a hard position and we are all going to look for ways to connect with someone which makes it hard for male cops. I really really feel for them. And agree they were incredibly kind for her and took far more time than I would expect law enforcement to do honeslty[/quote]

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