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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And what mess would that be? When her husband left office the economy was best its been in years. I dont see nyc in shambles following her leaving departure in senate.

I whether or not you agree with her politics she is an extremely competent indvidual who does have a vested interest in helping others. [/quote]
She has one area of extreme competence: 
pathological lying.[/quote]

You are driven by hate. Show us your alternative and we will show you the lying they are engaged in. If you tolerate that and hold it against Hillary, tell us what is the actual reasons you do not like her. It will say something about your core belief.[/quote]
You are using a false standard.  Just the fact that Trump ALSO lies doesn't make Hillary's lying any more attractive.  Lying is not a good thing even if you lie less than your opposition. Carl Bernstein is hardly a conservative but his profile of Hillary pointed out the same thing.  It's OK to acknowledge that this is true without saying that the other guy is even worse. This doesn't make Hillary's flaws disappear. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/opinions/hillary-clinton-biography-carl-bernstein/ [/quote]

What does Carl Bernstein's opinion have to do with anything? Hillary has been proven to tell lies at the rate we all do. Like you. Like me. Donald lies like the rest of us breathe.[/quote]

You and I are not running for office so no one is judging us through that lens.  Don't you think people expect a presidential candidate to be slightly better than Joe Blow? When candidates run on the platform "I'm one of y'all", they don't usually mean "I'm as fucked up as you are."

Carl Bernstein opinion matters because it shows that a) not just rabid conservatives are turned off by her tenuous relationship with the truth, and b) he has access to a lot more information and sources than most people. [/quote]

For one carl berstein the entire Republican Party doesn't support Trump. Not the past GOP presidents or past nominees or Powell or rice or graham or Cruz or kasich. [/quote]
Bernstein does not NOT support Hillary.  It is possible to support someone yet be completely sober about their flaws. [/quote]

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