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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Race based affirmative action is considered unlawful in Europe, but there are SES preferences.[/quote]

This is more equitable.[/quote]the ones I know about do not ask for parents income[/quote]

Exactly. European universities are so affordable that, as a general rule, parents' income is not a factor. Now what about Asia Pac? It seems this thread has not focused enough on universities in Singapore, Korea, China, Australia, which are going to become more and more important.[/quote]

UK universities can charge up to £9,000. At $1.60 to the pound, that's hardly affordable for low income families.[/quote]

Is the UK the only country in Europe?

And, even your example is misleading. Until last year the maximum tuition was like 3,000 pounds, now increased due to budget problems. A joke by American standards.[/quote]

What are you talking about? 2 years ago there was a huge uproar in the UK because of the tuition increase - it went up to about 9,000 pounds and even more for an international applicant. If you do the currency exchange and then add in travel and living costs that doesn't make it much cheaper than going to an in-state public university in the US (which despite your derision are excellent universities). Several of my friends who are UK residents were pissed about it! Universities in other European countries may be slightly cheaper, but not for international students. My family and friends in Italy are also in a tizzy about the rise in tuition costs. And again, factor in the living expenses since European universities do not have living arrangements available - most students simply live at home.

European universities are excellent - no one is arguing that, but they aren't the greatest thing. Just ask a European who is willing to be honest (not a random, mean-spirited one who posts anonymously online…) and they will tell you the downfall of their system. Since in most cases you need to start deciding your area of study during the high school years you have people who are stuck with something they chose at the age of 15 or something that was chosen by their parents. Pretty limiting in life. [/quote]

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