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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some people seem to really like Greek life, but the appeal is by no means universal. Greek life is the primary reason DD is not applying to UVA.  She was horrified by the frat boy culture she saw.

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Same with DS.  [/quote]

Curious how they "saw" the culture, PPs?  Did they spend a night or weekend on campus?  We recently did a day tour and were pretty impressed.  DS definitely doesn't want a big frat/party scene, though, 
and it's impossible to get a sense from the outside what the culture is like.  Every school we have visited says the same thing:  30% go Greek, it's no big deal either way, they're really inclusive, blah blah blah.[/quote]

I'm not the PP you're quoting, but I agree that the tour guides and admissions officers all parrot the same line -- even at places like Dartmouth with a notoriously misogynistic frat culture.  Additionally, they often manipulate the stats to create the illusion that fewer students go Greek than actually do.  For example, when our kids toured Dartmouth, the admissions office line was "only 40% of male students join frats".  This is true, but doesn't take into account the prohibition on freshmen participating in Greek life.  Thus, if you ask, what percentage of all male students eligible to join frats choose to do so, the percentage is is significantly higher.

You'll get a more honest perspective on social life from current students -- your DS can ask his HS school counselor for contact info for any recent grads who have gone to the colleges he's considering.  Better yet, try to line up an overnight visit with a current student.  For our kids this was the most helpful way to get a sense of whether the school's social scene would be a good fit.            [/quote]

Your basic point is spot on, but totally undermined by your man hating judgment.  "notoriously misogynistic frat culture" really?[/quote]

Not PP, but yeah, really. Dartmouth fraternity culture is exactly that and well known for it.  Not all fraternity culture is misogynistic, but Dartmouth's fraternities are awful. [/quote]

Female who attended Dartmouth here. This was not my experience. At all. [/quote]

+1 but I know the type that would say that[/quote]

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