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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

[i] Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.[/i] (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists.  MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America. 
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So, to be clear, you are anti-healthcare and you believe God will take care of your health?  So you don’t want healthcare for you or your children?  Because that is exactly what you voted for. You voted for more children to die from disease and malnutrition. 
Fine- then don’t enter any more hospitals or medical clinics. 
If you can be consistent with your views, I can understand and respect. When you waffle, it’s manipulation and not respectable. [/quote]Nobody is anti-healthcare but there is a considerable segment of the population who do not want their tax dollars murdering babies in the womb or paying for mentally confused people to get surgery and hormones to better deceive people that they are of the opposite sex.

Healthcare did not go away, nor is it going away because of Trump. Stop being a Democrat shill.

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You need to go back to Biology class.[/quote]

How can you expect people who believe they are feasting on Zombie Jesus every Sunday to understand biology? [/quote]

DP: You lose credibility and the argument when you go full bigotry like that.[/quote]

Its a wafer. That's it. To expect others to see more is the problem [/quote]

Nobody expects others to see more. That does not excuse your bigotry about someone else's religion, not morally and not politically.[/quote]

If you plan to shove your religion down someone’s throat, expect to see ugly and humiliating truths regurgitated on you. Expect to see your faith humiliated. I’m fully content to let people live their nonsense in private. But when it comes the basis for how I’m supposed to live my life it’s all going under the microscope.

When my Catholic ancestors came to this country they understood that. [/quote]

I (still the DP here, not the person you started with) do too, and I am not shoving my faith down your throat (I'm a proc choice, liberal Democrat, btw, as are many Catholics and Catholic politicians), nor am I going to mock other peoples' faiths and beliefs, because that gets us no where but divided. Also, you did not regurgitate a "truth," you just proved that you don't understand what you are mocking and probably never actually looked into it, so you are too easily dismissed by people like the MAGA upthread, which isn't helpful. Your anger is apparent in your text, and [b]so it seems emotion is getting the better of your reasoning[twitter]. [/quote]

Probably. I’m an atheist, so it’s all BS to me. I also don’t see the point in “reasoning” with people who are content to bring Hell on earth because they think God is on their side. There is no reasoning with that. They didn’t reason themselves in, so there is no reasoning them out.

But if you have suggestions I’m happy to hear them. [/quote]

I agree. I'm with you on how hard it is to talk to people who cannot explain their thoughts and beliefs, and who take serious action, like voting or crime, without being able to articulate and support their choices. I find it somehow comforting to watch the clips of smart reporters asking questions that get them tongue tied, and note how the reporter is respectful and not mocking. I'm not steady enough to pull that off in person, because I do get upset when people spout hateful nonsense. People react to anger and name calling with defensiveness and more anger and name calling--counter productive. But with the steady reporters, I like to think that tongue-tied person will walk away, not angry at the person who respectfully asked the questions, but hopefully really thinking about why they couldn't answer it. But, maybe that's the little Pollyanna in me.[/quote]

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