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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s hard OP. RTO for me meant a 90 minutes each way commute to a place I’d never worked before and turned my family’s life upside down.

It is very, very tough. While on one hand, yes I am physically able to get to the office and “work” each day, it is destroying my productivity and physical and mental health, affecting my relationships with my kids and family, and just making life absolutely miserable. But the people in charge now do not care about those things. They want us to be miserable and quit. Many of us are stuck between a rock and a hard place. My kids are teens; it would be devastating for them to have to pick up and move to a new area, and near impossible to find a good enough paying other job in this market.

So I do like many women have for thousands of years: put up with it, put my own physical and mental needs behind those of others, and just hope it will get better before I drop dead.

I’m also not sure it is worth it to stay in the fed workforce just because of the pension.
If I could, I would quit, move far away to lower COL area, and just start over in a new job, but that would really hurt my kids.[/quote]

You think it doesn't impact men too?  I don't get why women make it just about women.  [/quote]

Ok, so this is a parenting forum, and I am a mother. RTO impacts mothers especially. Remote work (zero commute) was the first time I ever had enough time and energy to give 100% at work and also be 100% of the mother I wanted to be and also had time to take care of myself. And I experienced much less anxiety while WFH and was able to really advance in my career, for the first time in my life.

I know there are exceptions but I am not seeing a lot of fathers who are as emotionally as devastated as mothers who had to RTO. I don’t even have little kids. I can’t imagine what it’s like being a parent of an infant with a 3 hour commute.

Remember this is not simply a return to the way things were before. [/quote]You hire help.  It’s called childcare. Or, you live closer to your job. [/quote]

My kids are teenagers. They don’t need childcare, but they do need a parent or adult in their life who is present and not a zombie. And I am not up rooting my teenagers and ruining their lives for some job that might fire me anyway. You can go right to hell.[/quote]

Your bills must pay themselves.[/quote]

How would you feel if one day your employer asked you to work 40% more hours for the same pay? because that is exactly what is going on here.[/quote]

Commuting is not working. That is a choice. I had a long commute once. 10 hours roundtrip. So I rented a small pied a tier across street from office for during the week. [b]They I relocated 15 minutes from office after a few months[/b]. [/quote]

Can you perhaps understand that most people can’t do this? Schools, spouse’s job, low rate mortgage etc.

If you say so what, find a new job, well you’re going to need to accept an employer losing a large number of employees for inflexibility. Most people can’t live a life like you have, and most employees would find a new job instead of relocating to 15 minutes from the office. The disruption and impact to morale is a huge problem for a company.

Many higher ups have your mentality until they see the effects of losing 10% more of their workforce and primarily the stronger performers who can find another job offering flexibility. 
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