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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many of my MAGA relatives were very unhappy about REAL ID and decided to step down to regular ID because they rarely fly. Didn't want to get all the paperwork.[/quote]

What paperwork?  I took my original birth certificate and al utility bill addressed to me at my home address when I renewed my driver's license.  Zero problem.[/quote]

So you had:

- an unexpired driver's license (shows your identity, first proof of residence)
- original birth certificate (certified, embossed, etc) shows citizenship
- utility bill (shows residence - second proof of residence)

And the name on your birth certificate matched the name on your Driver's licence matched the name on your utility bill, right?

So for YOU it was easy peasy.

Now try it, but lacking some of those documents. [/quote]

I didn't say I didn't need proof but there was no paperwork for me to fill out.  I handed clerk my DL and BC and utility bill. Passed eye test and got my renewed DL.

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There was no paperwork for you to "fill out" because you already had all the correct forms of documentation you needed.

The people complaining about having trouble with the "paperwork" aspects of Read ID (or of proving citizenship to the specifications of the SAVE Act in order to vote) are lacking key documents of evidence.  That's the "paperwork" they need to get, and in order to get the paperwork as evidence, they have to often jump through multiple hoops.

SO your situation was easy peasy, but some people's situations are not easy peasy.[/quote]

Like my MAGA friends from childhood who have been divorced and married multiple times, sometimes eloping, and they don't have *any* of the official documents they need to prove who they say they are, besides a driver's license. And they are white, so sometimes they drive around on an expired driver's license for years. [/quote]

I just spoke with my sister, who was married in NYS in 1987. She can't find her certified copy of her marriage license (hasn't needed it for ages), and ordered a copy 12 weeks ago; it still hasn't arrived.[/quote]

They told us about this twenty years ago.[/quote]

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