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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]An scientific study shows that bike sharing in DC has actually reduced congestion: https://www.itskrs.its.dot.gov/2020-b01452

This is an interesting counterpoint to those who claim that bike lanes have the opposite effect.[/quote]

Except the physical changes increase congestion, which is what they are designed to do, by over 20% so it's still a large net negative.[/quote]

Where are you getting 20% from? They certainly aren't allocating 20% of road space to bike lanes.[/quote]

In terms of protected bike lanes (which are not used for free parking, most of the time), it’s 35 miles out of 1,500 miles of road. The lanes take up at most 20% of the road, so it’s 0.2 * 35/1500 =0.005%

The amount of whining that goes on about the use of 0.005% of road space in DC is phenomenal!

Get a better hobby, NIMBYs![/quote]Old Georgetown Road says you're wrong.  The took 2 of the 6 lanes (33%) and turned them into bike lanes which approximately zero people use.[/quote]

You’d be interested to hear that the actual data shows the bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road did not slow down commutes and seem to have decreased accidents. https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/08/many-drivers-despise-these-bethesda-bike-lanes-but-are-they-slowing-drivers-down/[/quote]

Did you read the article?  It's entirely specious spin - especially that accident data.  It's a prime example of how to lie with statistics. [/quote]
I’m not going to bother reading the article because it sounds like a huge lie. The SHA study came to the following conclusions:
- costs $100k per year to maintain 
- used by 28 cyclists per day in summer
- adds ~10 minutes to travel time during peak hours
- did not increase vehicle accidents

Now one one could say, and plenty have, that 10 minutes is no big whoop. But 10 minutes for 10,000 daily road users is a lot.

Let’s put this another way, there is a reason why all of the cycling advocates in the region don’t talk about this boondoggle and there’s a reason why Montgomery County has shifted its “war on cars” strategy to lane reduction with bus lanes instead of bike lanes.

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The report did not say that it costs $100,000 a year to maintain, and the report also did not say that it adds 10 minutes to travel time during peak hours. You're just factually wrong about that.

Also, if you think ten minutes for 10,000 daily road users is a lot, just imagine how much 3 permanently dead people is.

Here's the reality:

Old Georgetown Road was a dangerous/deadly road.
So MD SHA instituted a road diet to make it safer - reducing the number of lanes from 6 to 4, and narrowing the lanes.
They had to do something with the extra road space, so they put in bike lanes.
The main effect of the bike lanes is to make the sidewalks much safer and more comfortable for people who are walking or waiting for the bus.
There isn't any additional cut-through traffic.
There aren't any additional traffic jams.
Almost two years later, some people are still complaining because it takes them a few minutes longer to drive.

Get over it.[/quote]
It’s weird that someone would lie so much about bike lanes. Why do you do it?

The PP was close but not completely accurate. Here’s what the report says:

- AM peak period travel times have increased by up to 22%
- PM peak period travel times have increased up to 40%
- Total peak travel times increase is 6 minutes per day
- Maintenance has cost $57,000
- There was no reduction in bike crashes (1 per year last 3 years, 0 in 2019-2020)
- Vehicle crashes increased by 60% (16 in 2022, 26 in 2023)[/quote]

where are you getting that from?[/quote]

It’s perhaps unsurprising that the anti-cyclist maniac on here accustomed to accusing everyone else of lying refuses to cite their sources.[/quote]

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